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Authority of US ambassadors?
Category: Relationships and Society > Government Asked by: nautico-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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14 Aug 2005 06:27 PDT
Expires: 13 Sep 2005 06:27 PDT Question ID: 555588 |
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Re: Authority of US ambassadors?
From: myoarin-ga on 15 Aug 2005 04:43 PDT |
Nautico, From everything I can find, ambassadors report to the State Dept. The next to last site is about Powell?s reorganization. The last one tells that Rice?s new man in Iraq reports directly to her (and that his predecessor reported up the chain). Whether politically appointed ambassadors report directly to the president: I doubt it and hope not (and hope the Secretary gives them an aide to keep them in line and him/herself informed). So it is not like in the days of Franklin and Jefferson in Paris. Do they have unilateral authority over US troops in the country? On the milnet site, it says that State expresses it as ?works very closely?. Another site says that in Iraq the military reported to the military chain of command, but that is a very special situation, and the fact that Rumsfeld (I believe) made the statement, implies that it is/was recognized as an exceptional situation. Another site explains that when the Army wanted to send troops from Afghanistan into Pakistan, the ambassador refused permission (so he was asked) to avoid possible local public response that could overturn the fragile government. It rather seems that State and Defense fight for the turf. The 1st globalsecurity site is a Marine Corps paper about the lack of coordination in the Philippines in the early 90s. http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/United-States-Department-of-Defense http://www.milnet.com/defdep.htm http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1992/SGS.htm http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/41-10_2000/ch4.htm http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2005/SOM-Pentagon-Bypass24feb05.htm http://www.cpa-iraq.org/pressreleases/20040620_quiet_transfer.html http://www.cfr.org/pub6431/james_m_lindsay_ivo_h_daalder/revitalizing_the_state_department.php http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11865 A very interesting question, and apparently the responsibility is not as clear and fast as one would have hoped. Regards, Myoarin |
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Re: Authority of US ambassadors?
From: nautico-ga on 15 Aug 2005 05:17 PDT |
"A very interesting question, and apparently the responsibility is not as clear and fast as one would have hoped." Roger that. As is usually the case in any official hierarchy, much depends on personalities when it comes to questions of authority and reporting relationships. If the ambassador is a close personal friend of the president, then he or she will have more de facto unilateral authority than, say, a career FSO who's come up the ranks. I continue to believe, however, that all US ambassadors, at least in theory, derive their authority directly from the president and not from the Secretary of State. Over time, practical considerations have probably served to shift the real reporting relationship to the latter. |
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Re: Authority of US ambassadors?
From: myoarin-ga on 15 Aug 2005 12:37 PDT |
Yes, in theory, no doubt, but US officers also receive their commission from the president, which certainly doesn't give them any right to buck the chain of command. You might like this story from our alma mater. In the mid 60s I met a grad student who had completed his ROTC service and also had an Irish name common in the State's and national politics. When he arrived at his first assignment, he was surprised that he was called aside and taken by car to headquarters and ushered to the general's office. Before he could remember whether he should salute or stop two steps before the general's desk, the latter came around and shook his hand and hoped that he had had a good trip. After a bit of small talk, the general delicately asked if he was related to that family. The young lt. admitted that he wasn't, telling me that it was a great mistake, that he should have just said: "only to exchange Christmas cards," or the like. Luckily that was in Germany and not Vietnam. |
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Re: Authority of US ambassadors?
From: nautico-ga on 15 Aug 2005 13:20 PDT |
"Yes, in theory, no doubt, but US officers also receive their commission from the president, which certainly doesn't give them any right to buck the chain of command." But the operative question is whether the Sec of State is actually in the chain of command between an ambassador and the president. Although it has surely evolved that way, no doubt because of the large number of our ambassadors around the globe (200+), I do believe that any US ambassador retains the right to communicate directly with the president. That option would be open in the event of an emergency, though in this high tech age, such communications would probably take the form of a cable to the National Military Command Center (ensuring immediate delivery to the White House situation room), with a copy to SECSTATE. |
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Re: Authority of US ambassadors?
From: myoarin-ga on 15 Aug 2005 14:41 PDT |
Yes Sir, ;) One of the sites referred to the Ambassador's Procedural Handbook, but my search for it only returned me to that site. And it is probably classified. But now I've found the formula: "reports to the President via the Secretary of State". http://www.historycentral.com/Civics/f.html "Foreign Service - part of the Department of State. The Foreign Service has thousands of ambassadors and staff members, who are trained to represent the United States in embassies, missions, liaison offices, consulates and other agencies in the United States and throughout the world. Ambassadors report to the President via the Secretary of State. They are responsible for implementing US civilian foreign policy within the countries to which they are assigned." The following says the same, but you may enjoy(?) the whole text, perhaps the reason for your question: http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/000619.html "MR. McCLELLAN: -- you have ambassadors, ambassadors report to the President through the Secretary of State. That's just the process that's set up. And when you have an ambassador at the United Nations, I think it's long worked that way, that the ambassador reports through the Secretary of State to the President of the United States." This briefing says the same, http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2003/24958.htm "MR. BOUCHER: Let me, first, check and see if your description is accurate. Second of all, I would note that all ambassadors report to the President, that he is their -- they are envoys of the President, and they report through the Assistant Secretary and Secretary of State." "But the operative question is whether the Sec of State is actually in the chain of command between an ambassador and the president." You tell me; you're closer to Foggy Bottom and diplomatic circles than I am. I bet Condi Rice thinks State is actually in the chain, and all career FSOs also, and probably address all their correspondence accordingly. (Or do they preserve the formality of addressing them to the President? I doubt it.) And if an Ambassador did address a missive to the President (via the Secretary), would it be delivered to him - and with what comment? That is pretty much the subject of the McClellan interview. It's been very interesting, but is still unclear. I hope you have an insider whom you can ask. Myoarin |
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Re: Authority of US ambassadors?
From: nautico-ga on 15 Aug 2005 15:23 PDT |
I think that ambassadors seek to preserve the tradition of reporting to the president on matters of the highest importance, but, if they are at all savvy, keep the Sec of State in the loop. On matters more routine, I'm sure they report to the State Dept and without "bothering" the White House. You're right: I do hope one of the Google researchers knows more than I do about this subject. |
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