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Subject:
Rotational Reservation system
Category: Computers Asked by: blogjob-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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16 Aug 2005 12:36 PDT
Expires: 15 Sep 2005 12:36 PDT Question ID: 556472 |
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Re: Rotational Reservation system
From: corwin_02-ga on 17 Aug 2005 04:53 PDT |
Just FYI , you are asking a lot of work for 10 bucks , I suggest you read up on the google hints for asking questions and their pricing , my suggestion for this kind of work would be anywhere between 150 and 200 dollars (see it as an employee for a day to do this (and that would probably cost you more)) |
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Re: Rotational Reservation system
From: blogjob-ga on 17 Aug 2005 06:38 PDT |
Corwin, appreciate the interest. Although it might take you a day to do this, most people would do it in under 4 hours. Think of it as a challenge, if you like. It's not rocket science. I look forward to Google's response. |
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Re: Rotational Reservation system
From: th1rte3n-ga on 17 Aug 2005 10:49 PDT |
For both the systems you have listed the advantage is simplicity. Disadvantages for me as a owner are that in the first, 5 years in a row I have a 6 or worse pick while in the second, it's 4 years in a row. This table I created here is a bit more complex but if you follow a owner over 10 years, every year you have at least a top 5 pick in either the HW or CW. key: HW/CW After 2014 just start over by relabeling 2005 as 2015, 2006 as 2016, etc. 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 a 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 b 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 c 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 d 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 e 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 f 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 g 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 h 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 i 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 j 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 If this schedule is something that your just starting up you could adjust the years and priorities either way if desired. I know it's not the most thought out answer but it didn't take me long. Hope it helps, "13" |
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Re: Rotational Reservation system
From: blogjob-ga on 17 Aug 2005 11:17 PDT |
Thanks for that. Questions. 1. How did you arrive at that? Is there a trend or reason for it? 2. Can you redo the table please based on my table above in that in 2005 alone owner "A" has 2 priority, B has 3, C has 4, ....J has 1 priority. Can you use this as the setting for the first year (05) and then going forward use your method? Thanks |
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Re: Rotational Reservation system
From: th1rte3n-ga on 17 Aug 2005 12:53 PDT |
1. I created the table by adding priority 1 and then skipping 2 owners and wrapping on the end. This helps disperse the really good picks around. For the second priority I just gave the worst pick the best and second worst the second best and so forth on down. That's why you see those with one good pick also have a bad pick: 1/10, 10/1, 2/9, 9/2, 3/8, 8/3. The remainder have 2 so-so picks: 4/7, 7/4, 5,6, 6,5. I then shifted the table down each year and took the last entry and put it on the top. 2. Exactly as you requested: <I think> 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 a 2/2 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 b 3/3 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 c 4/4 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 d 5/5 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 e 6/6 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 f 7/7 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 g 8/8 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 h 9/9 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 i 10/10 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 j 1/1 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 Since it already sounds like this is under way, I don't think my initial order seemed very fair to a couple of the owners (namely i & e), putting myself in their shoes would make me feel cheated. After shifting it four years to the left and putting myself in each owner's shoes this seemed fairer: <shrug> 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 a 2/2 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 b 3/3 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 c 4/4 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 d 5/5 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 e 6/6 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 f 7/7 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 g 8/8 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 2/9 h 9/9 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 9/2 I 10/10 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 6/5 j 1/1 6/5 9/2 2/9 5/6 8/3 1/10 4/7 7/4 10/1 3/8 Again, hopes this helps: "13" |
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Re: Rotational Reservation system
From: blogjob-ga on 17 Aug 2005 13:02 PDT |
Great thanks, Last thing - can you pls. tell me what the advantage of the LAST table you just sent vs the FIRST one that I sent you (the one existing with 1/1 2/2 for the ten years....) and also the negatives please. Thanks very much again, tip will come. Thanks JD |
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Re: Rotational Reservation system
From: th1rte3n-ga on 17 Aug 2005 13:42 PDT |
Your welcome! Haha, I don't work for Google Answers, so this is all free advice and you can't pay me. I got the distinct impression from your question that people were unhappy with the current system and were suggesting a change be made. I own a timeshare and so mostly just started putting myself in each owners shoes and seeing how I would feel about the current system. The biggest thing that bothered me was every owner over the 10 years had a time when they had the 2 best picks, then the next year, 2 second picks. Although, while I had good picks for a few years there would then come a drought of years where I then had bad picks. Typically, I only use my timeshare every few years and sell, give to family members, or exchange it on the other years. So using my system, every 2/3 years I would have a really good pick that I could schedule and use myself and on the off years, I could give to family/friends or exchange it. If I had 2 good picks the same year I would realistically, only be able to use one of those good picks because I only have so much vacation and using it twice the same year would be a rarity for me. That's my background and why I approached your query the way I did. So, I would have to say.... Your first table advantages: Simplicity, really easy to use. I don't know how the schedule is resolved, depending on how it was done, this system may have an advantage here. Your first table disadvantages: Good picks blocked together in the same year and many concurrent years blocked together with "left-over" picks. My last table advantages: Each year has a good pick and a bad pick or 2 mediocre picks. There are no long droughts of bad picks that would frustrate an owner. My last table disadvantages: Complex, perhaps confusing system for some. Depending on how the schedule is resolved, this may add complexity. Converting from one system to another, could never be completely "FAIR". I tried to mitigate that by putting myself in each owners shoes and determining if I would agree to this if it were put before a vote at a meeting I attended. "13" |
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Re: Rotational Reservation system
From: blogjob-ga on 17 Aug 2005 14:57 PDT |
Thank you very much Another question tho' - I need this on a TEN year rotation starting 05 and ending 2014, not 2015. Would this change anything. As per your last table, it's till 2015 instead of 2014 because one pick is repeated. Wld this mean that we wld start overf again every 11 years instead of 10? That should not make a difference, correct? Thanks |
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Re: Rotational Reservation system
From: blogjob-ga on 17 Aug 2005 15:09 PDT |
Sorry - another clarification, and I promise this is the last (!) - Home Weeks (HW) are booked in the month of Sept and Club Weeks in the month of November for the following Year. Owners need to block 2 weeks in the following year as HW and 2 weeks for CW - Your last table gives Owner J two first priorities for two HOME weeks and also the same owner J two first priorities for two CLUB weeks! How can we fix this? PLs. post final table thank youu very much |
Subject:
Re: Rotational Reservation system
From: th1rte3n-ga on 17 Aug 2005 17:13 PDT |
I'll try my best here..... I included the extra year 2015 only because I pushed the data out a year because you asked for the original schedule in 2005, which delayed the new schedule by a year (which is why there are 11 years and owner J has the duplicate 1st picks). When you transition from one system to the next there will be discrepancies. In order to build a schedule that would include your 2005 schedule and then transition to the new schedule for the next 9 years and still be completely even and fair would require far more effort than I'm willing to put in, if it's even possible.... so if the 2005 schedule is inflexible (as in my last chart at your request) and complete fairness is required for the following nine years, up to 2014, I can't help you. My idea was that 2005 would use the original picks and then the rotation would start at 2006-2015, then repeat for 2016-2025, and so on. Original | New --------------------------------------------- | yr1 yr2 yr3 yr4 yr5 yr6 yr7 yr8 yr9 yr10 2005 | 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 | 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025 | 2026 2027 and so on. .... if that makes sense. Another couple ideas...... in regard to your original attempt to modify your schedule. If you can modify one of the 2005 picks. This one holds more true to your original idea but shifts your CW by 5 picks instead of only one like your original attempt: 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 a 2/7 1/6 10/5 9/4 8/3 7/2 6/1 5/10 4/9 3/8 b 3/8 2/7 1/6 10/5 9/4 8/3 7/2 6/1 5/10 4/9 c 4/9 3/8 2/7 1/6 10/5 9/4 8/3 7/2 6/1 5/10 d 5/10 4/9 3/8 2/7 1/6 10/5 9/4 8/3 7/2 6/1 e 6/1 5/10 4/9 3/8 2/7 1/6 10/5 9/4 8/3 7/2 f 7/2 6/1 5/10 4/9 3/8 2/7 1/6 10/5 9/4 8/3 g 8/3 7/2 6/1 5/10 4/9 3/8 2/7 1/6 10/5 9/4 h 9/4 8/3 7/2 6/1 5/10 4/9 3/8 2/7 1/6 10/5 I 10/5 9/4 8/3 7/2 6/1 5/10 4/9 3/8 2/7 1/6 j 1/6 10/5 9/4 8/3 7/2 6/1 5/10 4/9 3/8 2/7 Advantages: 2 first picks separated by 5 years, completely fair, fairly simple. Disadvantages: Still has a bit of a run on worse picks every 5 years. Or this idea that holds to - best and worst pick together, 2nd best and 2nd worse together, and so on (1/10, 2/9, 3/8, etc.). I also shifted the positions by three as this disperses the picks more evenly over the years but still retains one of the original picks for the first year: 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 a 2/9 9/2 6/5 3/8 10/1 7/4 4/7 1/10 8/3 5/6 b 3/8 10/1 7/4 4/7 1/10 8/3 5/6 2/9 9/2 6/5 c 4/7 1/10 8/3 5/6 2/9 9/2 6/5 3/8 10/1 7/4 d 5/6 2/9 9/2 6/5 3/8 10/1 7/4 4/7 1/10 8/3 e 6/5 3/8 10/1 7/4 4/7 1/10 8/3 5/6 2/9 9/2 f 7/4 4/7 1/10 8/3 5/6 2/9 9/2 6/5 3/8 10/1 g 8/3 5/6 2/9 9/2 6/5 3/8 10/1 7/4 4/7 1/10 h 9/2 6/5 3/8 10/1 7/4 4/7 1/10 8/3 5/6 2/9 i 10/1 7/4 4/7 1/10 8/3 5/6 2/9 9/2 6/5 3/8 j 1/10 8/3 5/6 2/9 9/2 6/5 3/8 10/1 7/4 4/7 Advantages: Fairly even distribution of good/bad picks over the 10 year rotation, completely fair. Disadvantages: Somewhat complex. "13" |
Subject:
Re: Rotational Reservation system
From: corwin_02-ga on 19 Aug 2005 03:15 PDT |
Just on a side note , would you work 4 hours for 10 bucks ? |
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Re: Rotational Reservation system
From: th1rte3n-ga on 19 Aug 2005 09:21 PDT |
Ummmm, no. I wouldn't work an hour for 10 bucks. Which is about what I've put into this so far. About 15 minutes of spreadsheet work and 45 minutes trying to explain my thought process. <Shrug> I was bored and it sparked my interest because I own a timeshare.... that shall we say has a lame scheduling policy. Just hoping to help some other unfortunate souls. "13" |
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Re: Rotational Reservation system
From: dumbledar-ga on 18 Oct 2005 03:01 PDT |
I have a question for blogjob-ga - afraid I'm new to this google system, so please forgive me if I'm not posting this in quite the right place, in quite the right way. I too work for a fractiona ownership company, and I've read with interest this rotating system, and would like in part to use a similar system. However, instead of two passes at picking, I'm exploring a system where 6 owners pick on a rotating priority system, half of their allocation: 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 A 1 4 6 3 5 2 4 1 3 6 2 5 B 2 5 1 4 6 3 5 2 4 1 3 6 C 3 6 2 5 1 4 6 3 5 2 4 1 D 4 1 3 6 2 5 1 4 6 3 5 2 E 5 2 4 1 3 6 2 5 1 4 6 3 F 6 3 5 2 4 1 3 6 2 5 1 4 After they've picked 4 of their 8 week allocation (during the month of October the previous year), they then pick the remaining 4 weeks, by booking within 12 weeks of travel (which we've called 'space available' bookings) Firstly, can you spot any ways to improve the above table - or make more fair. What I quite like is within the first 3 years, all but one owner gets first or second choice (save F who has to wait 3 years) In theory, all six owners should be able to have first or second chioce within 3 years, but I can't figure out how to achieve this, and yet maintian a systematic rotation. Having read your comments about not waiting six years, i've jumped people 2 then 3 years (if you stick with 3 years, people never move to 2 and 4, if they start at priority 1 and 3). Any improvements? Many thanks! |
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Re: Rotational Reservation system
From: dumbledar-ga on 18 Oct 2005 03:07 PDT |
sorry - meant the question for th1rte3n-ga |
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