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Subject:
Irish Terror Deaths
Category: Relationships and Society Asked by: tallybaldy-ga List Price: $20.00 |
Posted:
21 Aug 2005 09:30 PDT
Expires: 20 Sep 2005 09:30 PDT Question ID: 558360 |
How many people have been killed by Irish terrorists since Ireland gained independence from Britain? |
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Re: Irish Terror Deaths
From: scheppersepp-ga on 21 Aug 2005 12:26 PDT |
Almost four thousand people died as a result of the violence, not only by terrorists but also in argues between civilians. The IRA, the most important organisation, killed about 1500 people before the 28. July 2005, when they declared the end of armed combat. |
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Re: Irish Terror Deaths
From: dprk007-ga on 21 Aug 2005 13:28 PDT |
tallybaldy In order for a researcher to successfully answer your request, you will need to clarify question in 2 important respects: 1- Historical perspective. The Irish Republic gained its independence from the UK in 1921. However the modern day troubles to which the above commenter refers (which actually centre around Northern Ireland) started in 1968 with the first deaths from the troubles happening in 1969. Are you talking about deaths since 1921 (in any way related to Irish Political conflict between North and South and also the UK)? Or are you only interested in deaths as a result of the modern day "troubles"? Immediately after Irish Independence , there was an civil war in ireland which claimed hundreds if not thousands of lives. There was also from 1921 to 1968 intermittent violence from the IRA and protestant paramilitaries. This aspect of Irish History probably would have claimed less than a 100 deaths. 2 What is your definition of a "terrorist" ? One man's terrrorist is another man's freedom fighter. So which of the following would you consider a "terrorist" Catholic Paramilatries (Provos, Official ITA, INLA, Real IRA, etc) Protestant Paramilatries (UVF,UDA ,UFF etc) Agents of the British Government (RUC , British Police, British Army, UDR, B Specials, SAS, other British Secret services) Agents of the Irish Government (Garda Siochonna, Irish Army, Irish Secret services) Also if you want to include deaths from the Irish Civil War do you consider both sides terrorists (pro treaty / anti treaty) as terrorists? Or just one side? Or perhaps as a famous British politician may have phrased it , they were all just "ordinary decent warriors"? Regards DPRK007 |
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Re: Irish Terror Deaths
From: tallybaldy-ga on 21 Aug 2005 14:51 PDT |
I read a good bit, but I'm not a scholar and certainly not an expert. The atrocities of the last few years by people who profess to be followers of Islam. As an Irish-American I realize that the Catholics who attacked British people who were not members of the army. I feel I need to put the activities of my ancestors into the context of my thoughts and discussions of the evil of what these current people are doing. |
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Re: Irish Terror Deaths
From: dprk007-ga on 22 Aug 2005 17:55 PDT |
tallybaldy Not to sound like a broken record, I still think you will need to clarify your original question before any reseacher will attempt to answer it. I would say your last comment has only further confused the issue. It is very difficult to even start comparing the issue of Modern day terrorism as it relates to the Arabic/Islamic nations to the history of political strife in Ireland. Your original question asked about the number of deaths (in Ireland) perpetuated by "terrorists". Again if you can give a reasonable definition as to who or what a "terrorist" may be , your question may indeed be answerable. As a final point I would not worry too much about how bad or good your ancesters were in comparision to say Osama Bin Laden. That is something which would be highly subjective and of course really beyond your control. Frankly I would not loose any sleep over it. DPRK007 |
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Re: Irish Terror Deaths
From: tallybaldy-ga on 23 Aug 2005 06:34 PDT |
To DPRK007 How about the number people killed in Great Britain by Catholic paramilitaries since the "Troubles" began. Tallybaldy |
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Re: Irish Terror Deaths
From: tedward-ga on 24 Aug 2005 14:02 PDT |
you'll get most of your question answered on the BBC in-depth timeline article on http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/northern_ireland/2001/provisional_ira/default.stm |
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Re: Irish Terror Deaths
From: elaphotomus-ga on 10 Sep 2005 10:50 PDT |
this list with gibve the whole list http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstats.htm although the rest of the list ignores massive fanines, in china, in 1900s, som it iss not a totally accurate list |
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