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Q: Identifying Capsules -- A Drug or Creatine? ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   1 Comment )
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Subject: Identifying Capsules -- A Drug or Creatine?
Category: Health > Fitness and Nutrition
Asked by: claimtruth-ga
List Price: $22.00
Posted: 22 Aug 2005 22:42 PDT
Expires: 21 Sep 2005 22:42 PDT
Question ID: 559075
We have discovered capsules in a ziplock bag.  The capsules are
completely clear, and contain a white powder-like substance.  There
are absolutely no markings on the capsules at all.  It is claimed that
these unidentified capsules are Creatine.  We are suspicious that they
may be something more illegal (amphetamines of some kind?)  Could it
be creatine? Could it be something illegal?  How should I determine
what it is?

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 23 Aug 2005 03:25 PDT
If it is creatine, it was purchased somewhere.  Find out from the
capsule's owner, where it was purchased.  Ask to see the bottle.  Go
to the store and look for creatine in capsules similar to what you
have found.

If an identical capsule turns up in a commercial product sold as
creatine, then you can probably assume that you've been told the truth
about the capsules.

What additional information do you need for a complete answer to your question?

Let us know.

pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by claimtruth-ga on 23 Aug 2005 07:05 PDT
The owner of the capsules received them from a friend -- he says he
does not know where they were purchased, how they were purchased,
brand, etc.  He also indicates  that he does not know why someone
would remove Creatine capsules from their container and put them in a
zip lock bag.

I guess what I'm wanting to know is what are the possibilities for
this substance?  I've never used Creatine, but I'm wondering if it is
ever sold in clear, unmarked capsules?
Answer  
Subject: Re: Identifying Capsules -- A Drug or Creatine?
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 23 Aug 2005 08:09 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear claimtruth-ga

Thank you for allowing me to answer your interesting question. For the
past two decades I have worked in law enforcement and for the last few
years, specifically, I have been an evidence technician. What this
means is that I regularly come into contact with a variety of drugs
(some legal some not) and I often think I?ve seen just about
everything at least once.

Creatine (Creatine Monohydrate, Manufactured by SteroMax and others)
is usually marketed as an athletic or weight loss supplement and most
often comes in capsule form. Like most capsules on the legitimate
market, they most often have unique markings, numbers or colors on the
capsules themselves.

I have seen creatine and other caffeine type substances in clear
capsules. This is sometimes (but not always) an indicator that someone
has tampered with the substance after the fact. Tampering is not
always malicious though because (though not very wise) some people
like to change the dosages of these unregulated supplements and place
them in larger or smaller capsules. In addition to the fact that the
capsules are unmarked, it is also an indicator of tampering that the
capsules are in a plastic bag. Outside their legitimate bottle any and
all consumables (medication, food, drink, whatever) should be
considered CONTAMINATED. There is no guarantee where they?ve been, who
has handled them or what they even are. Suffice it to say that
unmarked capsules in an unmarked zip locked bag are enormous red
flags. It may be purely innocent (a silly decision, but innocent
nonetheless) but still it reeks of valid suspicion in the mind of the
average concerned citizen.

I recommend that you carefully place two of the capsules in a
container (without touching them if you can) and present them to your
local police department for testing (my department does this
frequently.) There they will open one of the capsules and pour part of
it into a ?field tester? (sometimes called a NIK test) and break a
glass ampoule inside releasing the active ingredient. The officer will
agitate the tester a bit and the resulting color will often
immediately indicate what the substance is (or in some cases eliminate
what it is not). You should take two because this is probably enough
to conduct about 4 different tests ? there are several different kinds
of NIK tests that can be done for different substances. In the end the
officer will tell you what you have or at least alleviate your fears
regarding what you suspected it ?might? be.

Alternatively, you can purchase your own NIK test kit and conduct the
test yourself. It?s very easy to do and the package comes with
instructions.

COPS PLUS ? DRUG IDENTIFICATION
http://www.copsplus.com/drugidentification.php


As for what the substance ?might? be, well, it could be a LOT of
things ? in fact, it could by anything. It could very well range from
some illegal drug to some over the counter medication or it could even
be ?bunk? ? a non-narcotic substance used to mimic drugs that is sold
to people as a counterfeit. This is one way that experienced drug
dealers ?rip-off? novices, by filling generic capsules with powder
sugar, talc or crushed baby aspirin and selling to ?newbies? in a
plastic bag as their dope of choice when in fact it will do little
more than give them a bad case of the runs. By then of course the
dealer is long gone with the cash.

If you plan to acquire a test kit and identify the drug yourself, let
me try to list what I DO NOT believe it is so you won?t waste money on
kits you don?t need. Based on what you?ve told me I DO NOT think the
substance is:

Marijuana
LSD
Crack cocaine (though it could be HCL or powder cocaine)
Opium (though it could be heroin as heroin is sometimes sold in capsules)
Acid neutralizer

Given the trends of young people today, if the substance is an illegal
drug it is most likely some type of amphetamine (ephedrine, meth, etc)
cocaine, prescription pain killer (like Valium, Xanax, Oxycontin,
etc), or more rarely perhaps nowadays a synthetic ?designer? drug
(like ecstasy, MMDA, etc).

The bottom line is that there are so many chemical substances out
there that there is just no way to guess what it might be without a
test. I deal with this issue every single day in my lab and over the
years I?ve found almost as many different substances in capsules as
can possibly fit into a capsule. Could it be creatine? Yes, but it
could also be dozens of other things ? or combinations of things ?
too?.some of which are even dangerous to handle with a bare, ungloved
hand.

So PS: Regardless of what you might have seen on Hawaii 5-0 or Miami
Vice, ***DO NOT TASTE IT*** or rub any of it on your gums. That is an
absolutely stupid concept that should never have been broadcast on
television as a means of testing drugs. It simply doesn't prove
anything and it CAN kill you.

I hope you find that my answer exceeds your expectations. If you have
any questions about my research please post a clarification request
prior to rating the answer. Otherwise I welcome your rating and your
final comments and I look forward to working with you again in the
near future. Thank you for bringing your question to us.

Best regards;
Tutuzdad-ga ? Google Answers Researcher



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claimtruth-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
Excellent Answer!! Detailed and through...exactly the info I needed.  Thanks!

Comments  
Subject: Re: Identifying Capsules -- A Drug or Creatine?
From: labit-ga on 22 Aug 2005 23:30 PDT
 
Hello, you can send it out to a reference laboratory and have it tested.

http://www.labcorp.com/dos/index.html

Then go to letter D, you will see "Drug Analysis, Unknown, Qualitative
and Quantitative" and a number you can call for information on how to
submit the sample.

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