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Subject:
Photodetector Triggering a 10-amp Power Supply via Microcontroller
Category: Science > Instruments and Methods Asked by: jjsonp-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
23 Aug 2005 06:30 PDT
Expires: 22 Sep 2005 06:30 PDT Question ID: 559195 |
Picture a ball-bearing rolling through a PVC tube. The tube has holes drilled through it, and a laser (or other light-beam) is shining through the hole to a photodetector on the opposite side of the tube. When the ball rolls through and interrupts the beam, the sensor on the other side of the tube sends a signal through a microcontroller, thus activating a 12 volt, 10 amp power supply (plugged into an AC outlet - thinking of using a PC power supply, but if you can suggest an inexpensive off-the-shelf alternative this would be preferable) for a millisecond or two. I want a series of several (perhaps 6) lights/detectors and power circuits along the length of the tube. I have done a fair amount of computer programming and some limited soldering/wiring, but I don't have any experience using microcontrollers or electronics per say (in fact I'm not even sure I need a microcontroller to do what I want). I am aware of the hazards of using a high-amperage power supply and can take the necessary precautions so as not to electrocute myself. If I do need a microcontroller I'd really like one that is USB - most of them seem to be old-school serial connections (perhaps there is an adapter?). Thanks! |
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Re: Photodetector Triggering a 10-amp Power Supply via Microcontroller
From: manifromch-ga on 24 Aug 2005 13:17 PDT |
First of all: Since Your body has a resistance of usually more than 1k depending on the body temperature (sweat) the resulting current from a 12V stabilized power supply would not exceed 12mA, which in turn is not harmful to Your body unless applied for a longer period of time (electrolysis). Then: To switch larger currents most engineers will use IGBT's. These things are rather robust, can handle large currents as well as voltages, have a long life time and do need hardly any current to control. IGBT stands for "Insulated Gate Bipolar Transistor" (see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IGBT). These devices can be found in induction generators, electric locomotives and many other applications. |
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Re: Photodetector Triggering a 10-amp Power Supply via Microcontroller
From: zodiacman-ga on 24 Aug 2005 18:56 PDT |
dear sir, here is how I would go about doing this... this does not require computer, microprocessor, or programming... just discrete components part 1... Light sender circuit part 2... Light reciever circuit part 2... simple 1 stage DC amplifier part 4... simple DC relay part 5... your high-power DC Power supply Part 1 circuit drives the LED's or small LIGHTS to emit and shoot the light across the tube. This circuit could be very simple, since it is un-intelligent, and does not do anything else. You could rig the LED's or LIGHTS in PARALLEL or in SERIAL. If Serial, if one burns out, the whole chain gos out. Part 2, the light reciever circuit, uses Photo-Transistors. Each photo-transistor is essentially a Switch that turns OFF and ON as the ball passes. You would probably want to put these in Parallel, so that the same signal is generated regardless of which sensor picks up the ball. Your circuit would need to generate a POSITIVE signal when the ball passes the P.T. Part 3, is a simple 1-stage DC Amplifier, built using ordinary transistors, capacitors, and resistors. The signal coming from the P.T.'s would feed the INPUT of the 1-Stage Amp. The Amp would amplify the signal maybe 100X and pass it to the output terminals. Part 4, a DC RELAY would be connected to the Output of the 1 stage Amp. When the AMP amplifies the phototransistor signal, the output signal drives the DC RELAY, activates it, and CLOSES it, like a switch. Part 5, your power supply, If the Power supply were already switch ON, then the RELAY could be used to connect the (+) Voltage of the Power Supply to the "LOAD" at that point. You would want to choose correct current rating on the RELAY's main lines to withstand whatever the current is. The principle here is very simple to the HeadLight circuit on your car. OR... If your 10-A Power supply is plugged in, but turned OFF, you could used the RELAY to act as a switch to turn ON the power supply itself, replacing the manual switch in the power supply housing with the RELAY. That, of course is more RISKY, since the poor power supply is switching ON/OFF with every sensor activation. summary... LED's => shine light => PhotoTransistors => sensor signal => "Input" of Amp => 100X DC 1-Stage Amp => "Output" of Amp => HI-Current DC Relay => Relay controls the (+) Line of 10A Power Supply An alternate sensor arrangement, instead of using Lights/LED's would be to use those little magnetic sensor switches that OPEN or CLOSE when a metallic object goes by. You could mount these outside the PVC pipe, and (perhaps) they would be sensitive enough to pick up the ball when it passes. Their signal would then feed the amplifier. You should be able to find Electronic Circuit CookBooks in the local library that explain & diagram how to set these up. They are really pretty simple. Good Luck! |
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Re: Photodetector Triggering a 10-amp Power Supply via Microcontroller
From: formica34-ga on 25 Aug 2005 18:12 PDT |
A relay will be too slow if you want repeatable, millisecond switching speeds at 10 amp levels. You'll need to use IGBTs, FETs, or MOSFETs. If you want to make things easier, you could use solid state relays. Making a rail gun?? If you're driving switching inductive loads at 10 amps you'll need some snubbing to cut down switching transients. |
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Re: Photodetector Triggering a 10-amp Power Supply via Microcontroller
From: jjsonp-ga on 26 Aug 2005 05:48 PDT |
Sort of like a rail-gun, but not exactly. What is 'snubbing'? What are 'switching transients'? Considering the comments I've received so far: I think Zodiac is right - I don't really need a microcontroller to make this work, so that is quite helpful as I consider how to begin. I appreciate the guidance regarding IGBT's too; switching speed is probably important to get the best performance out of the system. So: other than PC power supplies, can anyone suggest a plug-in power supply that will provide the current I need? I guess I could use a car battery but that's a lot more amperage I believe. Can I get IGBT's, photo-transistors, relays, etc. at RadioShack or will I need to hunt these down online? Also, how do I know what ratings of these to get? Thanks. |
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