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Subject: Gas Pressure Reducers
Category: Business and Money > Consulting
Asked by: sls10021-ga
List Price: $200.00
Posted: 24 Aug 2005 13:20 PDT
Expires: 23 Sep 2005 13:20 PDT
Question ID: 559897
I work for a fire suppression company--a small startup. We've come up
with the first completely breathable gaseous extinguishment. Our chief
competitive liability is that you typically need twice as much of our
extinguishing agent relative to competing solutions to successfully
put out a given fire. To compensate for this technical disadvantage we
came up with the idea of storing our extinguishing gas in spherical
composite pressure cylinders at 1,000 bar pressure. No one in the fire
suppression industry has ever worked with pressures exceeding 300 bar
to my knowledge?let alone 1,000 bar. We have successfully engineered
the container, but we still need a way to lower the release pressure
of our gas from our spherical storage vessel to an acceptably safe
release pressure. For our solution to work, we need to find a company
that can fabricate compact pressure reducers that can lower the
release pressure of our gas from its 1,000 bar storage pressure to
around 50 bar pressure as soon as it leaves our composite containment
vessel. We have some researchers on staff, but so far they have been
unable to locate a company that fabricates pressure reducers designed
to handle such ultra high pressures. We are confident that some
company out there has the expertise to at least design a custom
pressure reducer to meet our needs, but right now we have no idea who
to call. A friend of mine recommended your service, so I thought we?d
give you guys a crack at our little problem. What we need is for you
ladies & gentleman to help us find several companies or individuals
with the expertise to produce the pressure reducers we need to make
our present solution viable. We need these pressure reducers to be as
compact as possible to minimize the total weight & space of our
suppression system. Installation weight & space are vital competitive
characteristics in our business, and I can not stress the importance
of finding a development partner for us that has these priorities in
mind for their pressure reduction equipment. I hear you guys like
challenges. This ought to be a solid test of your research acumen.

Request for Question Clarification by denco-ga on 24 Aug 2005 14:42 PDT
Howdy sls10021-ga,

Are there any suspended solids in the extinguishing agent, especially
under the pressures you are talking, and does it have it any qualities
(acidity, etc.) that should be taken into account?  Thanks!

Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher

Clarification of Question by sls10021-ga on 24 Aug 2005 19:17 PDT
Our patented extinguishing agent is composed completely of inert
gases--dominantly nitrogen & oxygen. Think of our suppression agent as
a breathable atmosphere in its own right designed to emulate the air
you breathe on a regular basis, but with just the right blend of inert
gases (nitrogen, oxygen, CO2, Argon, etc.) to make combustion
impossible while still ensuring that our atmosphere can sustain human
life indefinitely. Until our research in this field, no one believed
that fires could be successfully extinguished by an inerting
?atmosphere? that contained oxygen.

Since our extinguishing agent is composed completely of inert gases
there should be no suspended solids present to my knowledge. Our chief
scientist is presently away at a research summit in Europe and won?t
be back until the 27th of August, so I can only give you answers to
the best of my knowledge. You can read more about us at
www.FirePASS.com . I hope this answers your question. Please let me
know if you need any additional information.

-sls10021

Request for Question Clarification by denco-ga on 25 Aug 2005 11:48 PDT
Appreciate your clarification, sls10021-ga.

If you could look at the following companies and provide feedback on if you
have already looked at any of them, or if these types of companies are in
the right direction.  All of them work on high pressure devices in one way
or another, especially in 1,000 bar pressure range.

They almost certainly won't have an "off the shelf" solution, but might be
able to engineer one for you.  Thanks!

High Pressure Equipment Company
http://www.highpressure.com/pdfs/section/sv.pdf

U.S. Para Plate Corporation
http://www.usparaplate.com/apps/indust.html

TEMCO, Inc.
http://www.temco.com/tempstuff/bprbpr1.htm

GHR Hochdruck - Reduziertechnik GmbH
http://www.ghr-vatec.de/Englisch/index.html

SI Pressure Instruments
http://www.si-pressure.com/


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