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Subject: How to pronounce New Testament names
Category: Relationships and Society > Religion
Asked by: rambler-ga
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Posted: 24 Aug 2005 13:21 PDT
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Question ID: 559899
I would like to know how to pronounce some New Testament names
as they would have been pronounced in their native language
during the life of Jesus.

Specifically, I would like to know the pronunciation and transliteration
of the names of Jesus and His twelve disciples, plus the two Marys.

For example (I'm making this up)...

ENGLISH NAME    TRANSLITERATION    ORIGINAL PRONUNCIATION
   Jesus            Iesu                  YAY-zoo
   Mark             Markus                MARK-oos
   etc.

Request for Question Clarification by scriptor-ga on 24 Aug 2005 13:52 PDT
Dear rambler,

The problem is that the native language of Jesus and his disciples was
Aramaic. But the New Testament was originally written in Greek, the
lingua franca of the ancient world. So are you looking for the
pronounciation of the Aramaic names (Jesus = Yeshua) or the Greek
names (Jesus = Iesous)?

Scriptor

Clarification of Question by rambler-ga on 24 Aug 2005 14:14 PDT
I would like to know how the names were uttered by Jesus and his
followers in Aramaic. That's my primary interest.

A secondary interest would be the transliteration from Greek.
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Subject: Re: How to pronounce New Testament names
From: pinkfreud-ga on 24 Aug 2005 17:39 PDT
 
This isn't as simple as it might seem. Here, for example is a
discussion of the Aramaic name(s) for Jesus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua
Subject: Re: How to pronounce New Testament names
From: justme22-ga on 24 Aug 2005 19:19 PDT
 
What Language Did Jesus Speak? 

On this question there is considerable difference of opinion among
scholars. However, concerning languages used in Palestine when Jesus
Christ was on earth, Professor G. Ernest Wright states: ?Various
languages were undoubtedly to be heard on the streets of the major
cities. Greek and Aramaic were evidently the common tongues, and most
of the urban peoples could probably understand both even in such
?modern? or ?western? cities as Caesarea and Samaria where Greek was
the more common. Roman soldiers and officials might be heard
conversing in Latin, while orthodox Jews may well have spoken a late
variety of Hebrew with one another, a language that we know to have
been neither classical Hebrew nor Aramaic, despite its similarities to
both.? Commenting further, on the language spoken by Jesus Christ,
Professor Wright says: ?The language spoken by Jesus has been much
debated. We have no certain way of knowing whether he could speak
Greek or Latin, but in his teaching ministry he regularly used either
Aramaic or the highly Aramaized popular Hebrew. When Paul addressed
the mob in the Temple, it is said that he spoke Hebrew (Acts 21:40).
Scholars generally have taken this to mean Aramaic, but it is quite
possible that a popular Hebrew was then the common tongue among the
Jews.??Biblical Archaeology, 1963, p. 243.

It is possible that Jesus and his early disciples, such as the apostle
Peter, at least at times spoke Galilean Aramaic, Peter being told on
the night Christ was taken into custody: ?Certainly you also are one
of them, for, in fact, your dialect gives you away.? (Mt 26:73) This
may have been said because the apostle was using Galilean Aramaic at
the time, though that is not certain, or he may have been speaking a
Galilean Hebrew that differed dialectally from that employed in
Jerusalem or elsewhere in Judea. Earlier, when Jesus came to Nazareth
in Galilee and entered the synagogue there, he read from the prophecy
of Isaiah, evidently as written in Hebrew, and then said: ?Today this
scripture that you just heard is fulfilled.? Nothing is said about
Jesus? translating this passage into Aramaic. So it is likely that
persons present on that occasion could readily understand Biblical
Hebrew. (Lu 4:16-21) It may also be noted that Acts 6:1, referring to
a time shortly after Pentecost 33 C.E., mentions Greek-speaking Jews
and Hebrew-speaking Jews in Jerusalem.

Professor Harris Birkeland (The Language of Jesus, Oslo, 1954, pp. 10,
11) points out that Aramaic?s being the written language of Palestine
when Jesus was on earth does not necessarily mean that it was spoken
by the masses. Also, the fact that the Elephantine Papyri belonging to
a Jewish colony in Egypt were written in Aramaic does not prove that
it was the chief or common tongue in their homeland, for Aramaic was
then an international literary language. Of course, the Christian
Greek Scriptures contain a number of Aramaisms, Jesus using some
Aramaic words, for instance. However, as Birkeland argues, perhaps
Jesus ordinarily spoke the popular Hebrew, while occasionally using
Aramaic expressions.

While it may not be provable, as Birkeland contends, that the common
people were illiterate as far as Aramaic was concerned, it does seem
that when Luke, an educated physician, records that Paul spoke to the
Jews ?in Hebrew? and when the apostle said the voice from heaven spoke
to him ?in Hebrew,? a form of Hebrew was actually meant (though
perhaps not the ancient Hebrew) and not Aramaic.?Ac 22:2; 26:14.

Lending further support to the use of a form of Hebrew in Palestine
when Jesus Christ was on earth are early indications that the apostle
Matthew first wrote his Gospel account in Hebrew. For instance,
Eusebius (of the third and fourth centuries C.E.) said that ?the
evangelist Matthew delivered his Gospel in the Hebrew tongue.?
(Patrologia Graeca, Vol. XXII, col. 941) And Jerome (of the fourth and
fifth centuries C.E.) stated in his work De viris inlustribus
(Concerning Illustrious Men), chapter III: ?Matthew, who is also Levi,
and who from a publican came to be an apostle, first of all composed a
Gospel of Christ in Judaea in the Hebrew language and characters for
the benefit of those of the circumcision who had believed. . . .
Moreover, the Hebrew itself is preserved to this day in the library at
Caesarea, which the martyr Pamphilus so diligently collected.?
(Translation from the Latin text edited by E. C. Richardson and
published in the series ?Texte und Untersuchungen zur Geschichte der
altchristlichen Literatur,? Leipzig, 1896, Vol. 14, pp. 8, 9.) Hence,
Jesus Christ as a man on earth could well have used a form of Hebrew
and a dialect of Aramaic.
Subject: Re: How to pronounce New Testament names
From: hisholyname-ga on 12 Sep 2005 11:58 PDT
 
don't make it too complicated. if you lokk into a jewish new
testament, like accordance offers or a good christian or jewish
bookshop might have (brit chadasha or hadasha) it is mostly hebrew:

yeshua, matityahu, jochanan, miriam, etc...

it is not difficult to find out with a bit of research (even on google)

but if you are interested in it, learn hebrew!

you will be surprised, how beautiful this language is and how
different in detail the hebrew texts in the tenach are... it will be
worth it!

thanks or toda raba!

:-)

jan
Subject: Re: How to pronounce New Testament names
From: hisholyname-ga on 12 Sep 2005 12:02 PDT
 
oh, i forgot one thing: it is interesting to see, that ye-shu-a has
three sillibles as most of the names of god: ze-ba-oth, e-lo-him,
a-do-nai, je-ho-va (if you take the old form) have too.

interesting, no?

but greek and modern translation has made two out of it: je-su or je-sus.

isn't it thinkworthy?...

:-)

jan
Subject: Re: How to pronounce New Testament names
From: rogerwilco-ga on 14 Sep 2005 05:26 PDT
 
Hi HHN,

Just to clarify three things:

1) There is no such thing as a "Jewish New Testament." The New
Testament is a Christian document. Jews have a single Torah, made of
two parts (written -- the Tanach -- and oral -- the Talmud and other
rabbinnic writings). The New Testament has nothing to do with it.
So-called "Hebrew Christians" or "Messianic Jews" are Christians pure
and simple who try to put a Hebraic tint on their religion, whether or
not they are of Jewish ancestry themselves.

2) Don't be too quick to assume that the spoken language of the Holy
Land in the first century CE was Hebrew -- certainly not modern
Hebrew. Greek and Aramaeic were commonly spoken, even as Hebrew
maintained its status as a liturgical language. The question was about
the names as they were *actually spoken* by Jesus and his followers.
That's more likely to be Aramaic or Greek than Hebrew.

3) The two- versus three-syllable thing is simply an effect of Latin,
and langugaes deriving from it (such as most European languages). The
Latin "Yesu" became English and Spanish "Jesus," French "Jesu," and
even (modern) Hebrew "Yesu." The Greek Iesous is,  I believe,
trisyllabic. And there are plenty of Old Testament names for God with
two syllables (Shaddai, for one).

Roger
Subject: Re: How to pronounce New Testament names
From: rambler-ga on 15 Sep 2005 08:14 PDT
 
About the name Yeshua:

Are the letters 's' and 'h'
pronounced together   (as in 'shop'  ) or
pronounced separately (as in 'mishap') ?
Subject: Re: How to pronounce New Testament names
From: fisherofmen-ga on 22 Nov 2005 03:59 PST
 
Jesus is the incorect translation of Yah Shua ---Yah meaning God Shua
Salvation . Yahshua said Yochanan Jonh 3.3 Unless a man be born again
he cannot
see the Kingdom of God?Born again through Repentence of All your sins.Being
Redeemed. SAVED

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