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Subject:
Oil bubble
Category: Science > Social Sciences Asked by: hedgie-ga List Price: $20.00 |
Posted:
25 Aug 2005 03:00 PDT
Expires: 24 Sep 2005 03:00 PDT Question ID: 560190 |
To ask a question well, one has to say shat s/he knows, so bear with me. We know that price of oil (nominal per barrel of crude) doubled from $30 to over $60 since 2003 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_price_increases_of_2004 and are now approaching the 'oil-crises' prices of 1980-ies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_energy_crisis http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050811/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_prices Also "Compared to few years ago demand is not significantly higher nor is supply significantly lower" My question is inquiry about the causes of this spike or bubble. I know about the 'peak oil' theory - but do not see any study which justify such sharp increases. If some studies which provide such correlation or justification can be found - that would be a welcome part of an answer. If some behind-the-scene cartel is manipulating the prices, may be some coalitions of non-democratic states, Venezuela, Iran Russia, terrorists,... may have such influence - that would be of interest as well. But I do not want conspiracy theories. Solid analysis of causes, supported by verified data, such as those published by the gov: World Oil Market and Oil Price Chronologies: http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/chron.html which would at least hypotheticaly explain this rarely precedented spike that is what I am after. And prediction, not guesses, how toppling of Iran and Venezuela governments could affect this run-up. Would crude prices go up to $105 per barrel, or or drop to normal levels? $60 per barrel translates to $3 per gallon at the pump in the US. Not so long ago, we had problems as prices at the pump exceeded $1. Is this consistent with what we know about peak oil - or is, perhaps, some Enron style manipulation, like what we have seen in the California energy crisis which toppled Grey Davis? http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_energy/renewable_energy/page.cfm?pageID=68 http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/blackout/california/ this time on the global scale? All comments welcome. I am interested in views of the public as well. |
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Re: Oil bubble
From: omnivorous-ga on 25 Aug 2005 08:51 PDT |
Hedgie -- Some people (and institutions) to read in this are: Dr. Colin Campbell (an Irish geologist whose predictions on oil production peaking are some 15 years old) Michael Lynch, an American oil industry consultant who argues that energy production will continue to climb Michael Rodgers, of PFC Energy, a Washington-based consulting firm (who predicts the peak at 2010-2015) International Energy Agency, a Paris-based energy consulting firm Alan Kelly, manager of coprorate planning for Exxon Mobil, one of the most bullish of companies about oil supplies Best regards, Omnivorous-GA |
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Re: Oil bubble
From: scribe-ga on 25 Aug 2005 11:25 PDT |
Are you aware of the article in last Sunday's (8/21) NY Times magazine about oil, by Peter Maass? It may contain some answers to the questions you pose:http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/21/magazine/21OIL.html I would add that before giving credence to any conspiracy theory, you should consider the possibility that this price increase is NOT caused by shortfalls in supply, artificial or otherwise, but by huge global growth in DEMAND for oil. And this growth will accelerate in the years ahead. Think about the dizzying increase in the number of cars in China (less than one million of them in 1990, 20 million in 2004, and a projected 140 million in 2020!) scribe_ga |
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Re: Oil bubble
From: hedgie-ga on 25 Aug 2005 19:31 PDT |
Thanks for the suggestions and references omnivorous and scribe So far we have three posibilities POPA : Peak Oil arrived Possible - but time scale is wrong. http://www.hubbertpeak.com/summary.htm half-time is 25 years: in 2040 production is halved (see Fig2) Price run-up is happening to fast for that explanation. RS: Real shortages of refining capacity and groeth in demand Possible - but actual numbers to not suppport demand growth http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/steo/pub/gifs/Slide6.gif Demand grows at the rate 2-3% and prices by 33% -- that is much stronger reaction that any-time in the past 2.1-percent annual average increase compared with 3.2 percent in 2004. This represents a downward revision from the previous Outlook?s annual growth rate of 2.5 percent in 2005 and 2006. worldwide petroleum demand growth http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/steo/pub/contents.html AS: Artificial shortages (taking capacity off line to drive up prices) as happened in California http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/blackout/themes/california.html ... several US refineries have recently suspended production for the repeated emergence of problems and have thus affected oil supply ( they probably mean gas supply?) according http://english.people.com.cn/200508/17/eng20050817_203073.html But of course, it could be legitimate need for maintenance |
Subject:
Re: Oil bubble
From: hedgie-ga on 07 Sep 2005 00:07 PDT |
There is some support for the AS hypotesis: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/239678_cantwell07.html |
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