I am looking for a list of people that coudl be deemed "experts" (i
suspect there is no more than 15-25)on the subject of "Games of Skill"
(as opposed games of chance). THe distinction is important for legal
classification of a business (i.e. to not attract the need for a
gaming licence). Sources of such people woudl be; academic professors,
prominent government legislators, professionals working in the field.

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Request for Question Clarification by denco-ga on 06 Sep 2005 19:58 PDT

Howdy esher-ga,

Not to be a pain, but is this really the question that you want answered?

If you have an upcoming court case involving the definition or classification
of a "game of skill" then you probably would want a list of people experienced
in testifying in such cases.

Otherwise, most countries, states, etc. have a clear cut definition of what
they consider "games of skill" and "games of chance" and one would think that
a listing of these definitions, or someone very familiar with them would be
desired.

If you had designed a whole new game that you needed classified, then I could
better understand your needs, such as an emphasis on the law, etc.

Maybe I am completely off base here?  Thanks!  denco-ga

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Request for Question Clarification by belindalevez-ga on 06 Sep 2005 23:04 PDT

<Do you require experts in a particular country or state?>

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Clarification of Question by esher-ga on 07 Sep 2005 00:43 PDT

Denco, thats exactly what i want answered but i didnt think i was
likley to get that answered here! a list of those who have tested
these games would be desirable but i am also interested in those
people that havent yet but are claer experts in the field.
Unfortunately there is a new game involved here but i cant disclose
here as these answers are publically viewable. So if answer based on
above that will be great.

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Clarification of Question by esher-ga on 07 Sep 2005 00:45 PDT

Belinda, no they dont have to be country specific although experience
of EU law woudl be an advantage. regards

Hello esher-ga,

With a bit of research, I was able to find many attorneys and experts
in the field of Games of Skill. Many of these people and organizations
would be of interest to you for an upcoming court case or legal
definition of your game because they are involved in the field of
gaming law and are considered experts in the field of Skill Games,
Gaming Law, and Law.

I?ll tell you a bit about each of them and outline why I think they could help you.

I started out by doing a search for (legal experts in the field of
games of skill in EU) and (legal experts on games of skill in EU)
*remove the parenthesis*
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=legal+experts+in+the+field+of+games+of+skill+in+EU&btnG=Search
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=legal+experts+on+games+of+skill+in+EU&btnG=Google+Search

I came across Anthony (Tony) Wollenberg, a highly recognized expert in
Skill games and Gaming Law. He is also a practicing attorney. Here is
what some sites devoted to Gaming and Speakers on gaming had to say:

Anthony Wollenberg 
Salans, United Kingdom

?Tony has over 25 years of experience advising on betting and gaming
law, including representation of many major European and US operators?
Tony is pre-eminent in his field and was recently quoted by ?The
Times? newspaper as being ?the doyen of the gaming field with an
international reputation for gaming law expertise? and ?among the City
(of London?s) most dynamic and personable lawyers?? Tony's undisputed
contribution to the international gaming law field has led to
international recognition on the gaming circuit. Tony regularly
lectures at international conferences on topical gaming issues. Tony
is well regarded for his betting and gaming experience within the
Legal 500.?
http://www.rivercitygroup.com/skills/2005/?page=speakers#Wollenberg
(List of Speakers on Skill Games, 2005, in Las Vegas, USA.)

?He is currently Of Counsel at Salans and heads the Betting and Gaming
group? No competitor would dispute Tony's considerable skills and
contribution to the international gaming law field.?

Anthony S. Wollenberg 
Salans
Clements House 
14/18 Gresham Street 
London, England 
EC2V 7NN
Direct Tel: 011 44 207 509 6075 
Main Tel: 011 44 207 509 6000
Private Fax: 011 44 207 367 0431
Main Fax 011 44 207 726 6191
Mobile: 07774 443832
E-mail: awollenberg@salans.com
http://www.gaminglawmasters.com/jurisdictions/uk/wollenberg.html (Info
on Mr. Wollenberg and his expertise from the IMGL)

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The IMGL is a non-profit group of attorney?s, gaming regulators, and
executives in the field of gaming. Their purpose is to educate and
advance the gaming law profession and to exchange professional
information about gaming law.

Membership to the IMGL requires ?at least five years of gaming law
experience; are able to demonstrate skills or knowledge that
distinguish their performance as a gaming attorney; have a substantial
gaming clientele and participate in philanthropic, charitable or
educational programs related to the gaming industry. There are also
associate memberships for gaming regulators, educators, consultants
and in house counsel of the gaming companies.?

You can contact them at info@gaminglawmasters.com 

I recommend contacting them to see if they can provide any other
resources to help your situation out.
http://www.gaminglawmasters.com/statement/index.html (Information on the IMGL)

Here is the contact info for a number of the lawyers in the UK IMGL
that you may want to contact.

1. Anthony (Tony) Coles

?Tony Coles has been advising on betting and gaming law since the mid
1960's and represents, amongst many other clients, a number of major
corporations. As well as being a member of the International Masters
of Gaming Law, Tony Coles is a member of the International Association
of Gaming Attorneys ("IAGA"), the Society for the Study of Gambling
and the European Association for the Study of Gambling. He sits on the
Editorial Board of Gaming Law Review. He has contributed the United
Kingdom segment to all editions of the highly acclaimed "Internet
Gambling Report" which has become the definitive legal resource on
Internet Gambling since its first printing in 1997.?
http://www.gaminglawmasters.com/jurisdictions/uk/coles.html
(Information on Tony Coles)

Anthony R. Coles
Jeffrey Green Russell Solicitors
Apollo House 
56 New Bond Street London
W1S 1RG England
Tel: 011 44 20 7339 7000
Fax: 011 44 20 7307 0240 
Fax Main: 011 44 20 7339 7001
E-mail: arc@jgrlaw.co.uk 
Website: www.jgrweb.com
2. Nick Nocton
Jeffrey Green Russell
Apollo House
56 New Bond Street
London, UK
W1S 1R9
Telephone No.: +44 (0) 207 339 7000
Facsimile No.: +44 (0) 207 307 0231
Cell No.: +44 (0) 778 070 8558
E-mail: njn@jgrlaw.co.uk
3.  Bill Galston
Galston Associates
?Whitbeck?
4 Bramhall Drive
High General?s Wood
Washington, Tyne & Wear
NE38 9DB
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 191 497 2840
Fax: +44 191 497 2840
Cell: +44 780 296 3627
Email: GalstonAssociates@Compuserve.com
Also, please take a look at this link for a PDF of ?A Brief Summary of
the Gambling Act 2005?, A number of links on Gaming in the UK and a
number of other useful links.
http://www.gaminglawmasters.com/jurisdictions/uk/ 
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The International Association of Gaming Attorneys (IAGA)

This is also a non-profit professional corporation related to the
development and study of Gaming Law. They have a Gaming Lawyer
committee that may be able to refer you to a specific member that
could testify or help you out in your Skill Gaming Classification.
Dave Johnson, Kay Fleming, Greg Giordano, and Marc Rubenstein are the
four members that make up the Gaming Lawyer Committee.
Contact info (ask for the contact info of the four above from here):
Kerry Koenig, Executive Director IAGA
8912 E. Pinnacle Peak Road
F-9, #417
Scottsdale, Arizona 85255

480.474.4378
480.275.2114 (fax)
iaga@cox.net
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The RGA or Remote Gambling Association is a merge in August 2005 of
the Association of Remote Gambling Operators and the Interactive
Gaming, Gambling, and Betting Association.

I?m not sure if your Skill game involves Remote Gambling (AKA
internet, etc) but I wanted to provide you with this information in
case it did. Not only is Gaming Law important to you in this case, but
I wanted to make sure I gave you experts for ALL kinds of gaming.

I read their Aims and Objectives and it sounds like they would be
perfect if you?re involved in Remote Gaming with your Skill Game to
help you.

?To consider litigation and where appropriate assist any of its
members in litigation against any organisation providing services to
or in any other way connected with the UK and European betting and
gaming industry and to support any of its members involved in
litigation over the right to provide services.
To represent, express and give effect to the views and opinions of
remote gambling operators and their employees on commercial or
mercantile matters of all kinds to Parliament, parliamentary bodies,
other EEA national governments, public bodies, regulatory authorities,
the Horserace Betting Levy Board (or its successor) , suppliers of
services to the betting and gaming industry, the media, the public and
any other organizations with the ability to affect or influence the
remote gambling market.?
http://www.argo.org.uk/aims.html (More Aims and Objectives)

Remote Gambling Association
Regency House
1-4 Warwick Street.
London
W1B 5LT
(+44) (0) 0207 479 4040 

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Google Searches:
Remote Gambling Association
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Remote+Gambling+Association+&btnG=Search

iGGBA
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=iGGBA&btnG=Search

Interactive Gaming, Gambling and Betting Association
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Interactive%20Gaming%2C%20Gambling%20and%20Betting%20Association&btnG=Google+Search

If this answer requires further explanation, please request
clarification before rating it, and I'll be happy to look into this
further.

Nenna-GA
Google Answers Researcher

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Request for Answer Clarification by esher-ga on 08 Sep 2005 03:19 PDT

Nenna, 
thanks for that but could you also add in some academics (tend to be
economists or mathematicians) /industry professionals  as these are
the independant parties were most interested in (as lawyers have
limited credibility as "experts" when hired by a client!). I'm aware
of at least 4 just from my own research so i'm guessing there are
probably 10-15.

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Clarification of Answer by nenna-ga on 08 Sep 2005 11:33 PDT

Hello again esher-ga,

I found some more places/people that may be helpful for you. With the
addition of these people, I still encourage you to contact the lawyers
as well as they may have their own list of experts who work in the
gaming field, since they are gaming focused attorneys.

http://www.publicgaming.org/

I?ll start with this site as a resource for you to maybe find more
information. Their site is a bit hard to navigate, with some broken
links, but you may be able to contact them for more information.

Public Gaming Research Institute, Inc.
218 Main Street, #203
Kirkland, WA 98033 USA
Ph: 425-985-3159
Fax: 206-232-2564
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Next is PriveWaterhouseCoopers Hospitality and Gaming Practice. 

?We assist clients facing litigation and disputes that involve gaming
industry issues, providing financial, economic, business advisory and
expert witness testimony for litigation, arbitration, and mediation
concerning real estate, construction, regulatory, insurance, and human
resource issues.?

You can contact 
Bjorn Hanson
Global Leader
1 646 471 5706
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On www.Experts.com I found NEWN.

Phone: 866-873-7890 Ext 201
Fax: 530-8737891
15309 Northlake Rd
Magalia, California  95954-9052
United States

?National Expert Witness Network, LLC (?NEWN?) was founded to bring
more than a decade of experience and client satisfaction in
identifying Expert Witnesses and technical consultants. NEWN is
independently owned and operated, as distinguished from our primary
competitors who are owned by large litigation support Corporations.?

They state they have over a decade of experience matching experts with
clients for a lower fee than most of their competitors. It states they
have experts in game technology and internet related technology.

http://www.experts.com/listing.asp?index=715 (NEWN)
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On www.almexperts.com I found two experts related to gaming. 

1. CEIR - Center for Economic and Industry Research
CEIR Telephone: (801) 401-3099
http://www.c-e-i-r.com/ 

2. Dr. Hal K. Rothman 
2137 Wilbanks Cir. 
Henderson, NV 89012 

With 15 years of experience, his primary area of expertise is gaming
and environmental engineering.
http://www.almexperts.com/ExpertWitness/experts_and_consultants/expert/5226783.html

I hope this helps!

Nenna-GA