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Subject: Miracles
Category: Relationships and Society > Religion
Asked by: skguha-ga
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Posted: 10 Sep 2005 08:33 PDT
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Question ID: 566459
How many miracles are reported, worldwide, every year?

Here "miracles" include all occurrences of paranormal or supernatural
phenomena that orthodox natural science (physics, biology, etc.) would
consider physically impossible.  I do not care about the credibility
of the reports, only how many reports occur.  Some references to
reputable sources for these statistics (online or, preferably, print)
would be very helpful.

Clarification of Question by skguha-ga on 17 Sep 2005 08:33 PDT
How many miracles are reported, worldwide, every year?

Here "miracles" include all occurrences of paranormal or supernatural
phenomena that orthodox natural science (physics, biology, etc.) would
consider physically impossible.  I do not care about the credibility
of the reports, only how many reports occur.  Some references to
reputable sources for these statistics (online or, preferably, print)
would be very helpful.  

This is NOT a question of theological content, it is a sociological question.
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Subject: Re: Miracles
From: pugwashjw-ga on 12 Sep 2005 01:32 PDT
 
Almighty God made it possible for both Jesus and the early apostles to
perform miracles to establish the fact that they had God's blessing [
to the ordinary and mostly illiterate people]. Jesus himself stated
that he could do nothing of his own initiative [John
5;19,30...7;28...8;28,42...10;18] Once the early Christian
congregations became established, miracles were no longer required.
The apostle Paul stated as much in First Corinthians 13;8-11..."
whether there are gifts of prophecying...they will cease.....Now that
we have the Bible, an insight into what God desires us to do, no more
miracles...through God...occur. This though, does not stop Satan, the
present 'ruler of the world' [John 16;11]from carrying out actions,
not understood by us, but seemingly coming from God. 2Corinthians
11;14 states that Satan can be ' an angel of light' meaning what he
can do can look quite O.K. and the sort of thing that even God might
agree with. But the bottom line is that Paul said miracles by God
would be done away with, and they have been.
Subject: Re: Miracles
From: sanzyu-ga on 13 Sep 2005 14:40 PDT
 
Spoken by someone who has never been on a mission field no doubt. If
you want to believe that miracles have ceased based on a horrible
interpretation of a passage that doesn't even come close to saying
what you want it to say, then go ahead. Your belief will hand-cuff
God's hands behind his back in your church community.
Subject: Re: Miracles
From: ilmag-ga on 13 Sep 2005 14:45 PDT
 
Great point sanzyu.
Subject: Re: Miracles
From: myoarin-ga on 13 Sep 2005 18:26 PDT
 
Note:  this is not a question of religious content.  Skguha-ga has
carefully defined "miracles".
I don't expect that a count of all newspaper reports that use the word
would qualify, even if the multiple reports of single events could be
netted out, but maybe that could be a start.
Subject: Re: Miracles
From: pugwashjw-ga on 17 Sep 2005 04:21 PDT
 
for Sanzyu. Excuse my ignorance, but what is your version of a 'mission field'.
maybe missionaries doing assistance work on behalf of less fortunate
people?. There is no more satisfying work. But the scriptures are
there for all to read. If your translation of the same scripture reads
any different, just quote it word for word and show me where I am
wrong. As for tying God's hands, no one can do that, and if He chooses
to have miraculous things happen, He will do so. But in so doing, He
would negate what the Apostle Paul said....they will cease...it will
be done away with. Here is an example of just what Satan can do do to
'blind' the minds of people.. In my state, a small porcelain statue of
Jesus' mother, Mary, was found to be weeping tears of what seemed to
be some form of oil. All the local Catholics and their priests begain
claiming a miracle from the "Mother of God". For me, Mary is the
respected mother of Jesus, but never the mother of God.  The sick and
lame came in droves. So far, no one has been cured. No one can explain
the oil. Where would oil come from in a porcelain statue.  I simply
ask, why would God, who has asked us to avoid Icons and statuary [
Exodus 20;4,5..Leviticus 26;1] cause something like this to happen.
But Satan surely would, to maintain the false teachings of the trinity
concept. True worshippers of God obey John 4;23,24 and worship in
spirit and truth. Two other scriptures back this up. 2Corinthians 5;7
and Isaiah 40;18. Two more clarifying points. Almighty God had no
beginning and has no end. Jesus did have a beginning [ Proverbs
8;22-30..John 8;58 & 17;5] before he was born to Mary.
Subject: Re: Miracles
From: skguha-ga on 17 Sep 2005 08:30 PDT
 
For pugwashjw-ga: please stop cluttering my comments thread with your
puerile theological debate.  Every time you post to the thread I get
e-mailed and falsely hope someone might have said something relevant
to my question.  I don't care whether you think miracles actually
happen or not, nor what the Bible has to say about it, and this is not
the forum for you to spout off on it.  For you to continue in this
manner is rude and self-serving, hardly worthy of a Christian, if
that's what you claim to be.  If you have anything useful to say in
answer to my question, say it.  Otherwise, please stay off this
thread.
Subject: Re: Miracles
From: pugwashjw-ga on 18 Sep 2005 04:31 PDT
 
O.K. But dont forget. Management is pretty tough here on any form of
abuse!. And your question may just be MIRACULOUSLY REMOVED.

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