|
|
Subject:
Is infinity a prime number?
Category: Science > Math Asked by: nicie-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
12 Sep 2005 06:57 PDT
Expires: 12 Oct 2005 06:57 PDT Question ID: 567098 |
My seven-year-old daughter asked me this question last week. I don't think it can be, and I'm not sure that it is a number per se. But any help explaining this (to a 2nd grader) would be appreciated! Thanks! | |
| |
|
|
There is no answer at this time. |
|
Subject:
Re: Is infinity a prime number?
From: mongolia-ga on 12 Sep 2005 07:07 PDT |
Prime numbers can only be applied to Integers. There are many other types of numbers including rational, irrational, complex etc to which the concept of Primality cannot be applied. Infinity is usually considered a mathematical concept. However it can also be considerd a number in special circumstances (for example if 1 by is divided by 0 the answer is infinity) However as it does not fall within the definition of an integer , the concept of primality cannot be applied. Kind Regards Mongolia |
Subject:
Re: Is infinity a prime number?
From: shockandawe-ga on 12 Sep 2005 07:23 PDT |
Although the limit of 1/x as x approaches 0 is infinity, 1 divided by 0 is undefined. |
Subject:
Re: Is infinity a prime number?
From: omnivorous-ga on 12 Sep 2005 08:11 PDT |
Nicie -- Is it even a a Real Number? There are multiple definitions of infinity, making for interesting reading for your daughter: ?Infinity? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity ?Real number? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_numbers ?Extended real number? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_real_number But at my house, I?d probably answer it by saying that infinity is a sideways 8 -- ? -- and that is divisible by a sideways 2 or 4 ? so it?s not prime . . . Best regards, Omnivorous-GA |
Subject:
Re: Is infinity a prime number?
From: myoarin-ga on 12 Sep 2005 16:36 PDT |
Infinity is not a number, it is beyond any number. Pick any number, and infinity is always larger. You pick a prime number, and it is larger than that number, and larger than the next even number, and on and on - for ever. If your daughter is asking such questions now, you are going to be in for a few interesting years. :) |
Subject:
Re: Is infinity a prime number?
From: ticbol-ga on 13 Sep 2005 00:11 PDT |
To a 2nd grader? You can tell her, "Is infinity a prime number? Let us see, infinity is not a number, so infinity cannot be a prime number. Infinity is not a prime number." Then, your daughter, "Why is infinity not a number?" And you, "Because it is too big. It is the biggest of the biggests. There is no limit to its value. If you can imagine the biggest number, well, infinity is much, much bigger than that." Her, "You mean nobody can count it?" You, "Yes." "Even my calculator?" "Yes." "Even the computer?" "Yes." "Ummm, if infinity cannot be counted, then it is not a number." "Ummm, yes." "So it is not a prime number" "No, it is not." "Geez, Mom, you are the best!" "Well,...." |
Subject:
Re: Is infinity a prime number?
From: realitor-ga on 18 Sep 2005 20:38 PDT |
Maybe the simplest thing would be to say that in order for something to be a prime number, it must be a NUMBER that isn't factorable into any integers other than itself and 1. Since infinity is not a number, we can't even ask whether it is prime or not. You may want to also add that for a similar reason, it is not a composite number either, since for something to be a composite number, it must first be a number, before you can even worry about dividing it by other numbers. Hope this helps. |
Subject:
Re: Is infinity a prime number?
From: blue_eyes-ga on 20 Sep 2005 17:13 PDT |
I think that if your daughter is as clever as she sounds you will have to go into a bit more depth to explain why infinity cannot be a prime by defintion rather than just saying "infinity is not a number therefore it cannot be a prime number" (her answer will just be: why????" So I think you need to point out that infinity can either be a prime or not a prime. Say it is not prime. If it is prime; then; infinity - 1 would not a prime. (Since any prime is odd so the prime - 1 will be an even number). But infinity + 1 according to the assumptions above would be even and non prime. But since infinity + 1 is bigger than infinity, infinity on further thought would actually be infinity + 1 which we have now decided is a non prime. If you reverse the begining assumptions you come up with a contradictory concluion. Anyhow, hopefully getting her to think in that way will make it a bit more obvious why why infinity is neither a prime nor a non prime by definition..... rather than going by a textbook definition which might be too dry for a child. |
Subject:
Re: Is infinity a prime number?
From: cliveac-ga on 21 Sep 2005 14:02 PDT |
I presume the question is concerned with integer values. Then the answer is that we do not know, in that it is indeterminable. The interval between primes becomes infintately large although there are infinately many. There are an infinte number, N, of integers but there are 2^N real numbers overall! I think! I suggezt you ask your 7-year old what she thinks is infinity, and if she can answer then put it on this site. I do not know the answr! |
Subject:
Re: Is infinity a prime number?
From: myoarin-ga on 21 Sep 2005 17:41 PDT |
Come on, Daddy, you know. Infinity is a sleepy eight. |
Subject:
Re: Is infinity a prime number?
From: brkevr-ga on 23 Sep 2005 03:39 PDT |
Hi there, You can create a number set which may be defined as consisting of a series of numbers which you select. Let me say take 1,000,000 as the last member of the infinity set that you are likely to create. Then you may have the opportunity to show her that there are more numbers that can divide 1,000,000 other than 1 and itself. I believe this is a good step for her to have a mathematical thinking mind. Maybe this can be the first step for her to understand what real mathematics is. Best Regards.... |
Subject:
Re: Is infinity a prime number?
From: peregrin12-ga on 23 Sep 2005 23:18 PDT |
I think we can avoid addressing whether infinity is a number. A prime number is a number that is only divisible by itself and 1. Since "infinity" is divisible by lots of numbers, it is not prime. |
Subject:
Re: Is infinity a prime number?
From: vidhu-ga on 24 Sep 2005 06:45 PDT |
hi, let me tell you a fact,that you can't make your child undestand by answering her.but you can make her understand by asking her some question.ask her to think the biggest number she knows and then tell her a bigger number than what she had said.and then tell her the fact that infinity is not a number infinity just a term which tell that counting is endless and there is always a number greater than that your daughter think |
If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by emailing us at answers-support@google.com with the question ID listed above. Thank you. |
Search Google Answers for |
Google Home - Answers FAQ - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy |