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Subject: juggling as art
Category: Relationships and Society
Asked by: ochenk-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 20 Aug 2002 17:14 PDT
Expires: 19 Sep 2002 17:14 PDT
Question ID: 56748
Construct an argument that supports the statement "juggling is a
unique and valid art form." Use the structure of defining art, and
then illustrate how juggling relates to that definition. Please use a
minimum of three unique definitions of what constitutes art, and
please cite each definition. Be sure to address the 'uniqueness' of
juggling as an art form and why it is not appropriate to categorize it
as performance art, dance, theater, etc.
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Subject: Re: juggling as art
Answered By: politicalguru-ga on 22 Aug 2002 06:26 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear Ochenk, 

Juggling is sometimes perceived as pure non-artistic entertainment - a
way to pass on the time and makes some tricks. It is also considered
by some as sport - the debate about that is frequent even among
jugglers themselves, with some who view juggling as sport (an Olympic
one), and reject any definitions of it as "art" <see:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=f30a6d2f.0111090117.d969d1c%40posting.google.com&rnum=10&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D%2522juggling%2Bas%2Bart%2522%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3Df30a6d2f.0111090117.d969d1c%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D10>.
However, juggling could be actually analysed - as I aim to do here -
as a unique, independent, type of *art*.

In order to do it, I'll begin with examination of few definitions of
art. According to Dada artist Marcel Duchamp, Art is whatever the
artist defines as art. With relativism such as this - juggling is art
as much as eating lunch is art, if the artist defines it as such. This
definition is nice, but it doesn't separate juggling from other arts.

Another personal definition found regarded art as "anything that
people add to their 'output' which is not functionally necessary and
is other than the default properties of that output"
<http://www.ebtx.com/art/art02.htm>. This definition bases itself on
the "functionality" of the "product". There is no doubt, in such a
case, that juggling can be considered a pure form of art. Juggling
bears no religious or political meanings that could address
"functionality".

Art is also defined (American Heritage,
<http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=art&r=67>), as the
"Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of
nature".

In this aspect, is juggling an art? Of course. It tries to challenge
and counteract the forces of nature. At the same time, it also tries
to supplement and alter them. This definition also separates juggling
from other types of "performing arts". Unlike theatre or dance, which
usually contain only one of the elements -it either tries to imitate
reality or to counteract it -, juggling contains all of these.

In addition, if art is "The conscious production or arrangement of
sounds, colours, forms, movements, or other elements in a manner that
affects the sense of beauty, specifically the production of the
beautiful in a graphic or plastic medium" (ibid), than one finds that
juggling must be considered art: it combines movement, defiance of
nature (esp. gravity) and movement. Juggling has the aesthetic value,
which is the foundation of art.

These definitions are different in their level of interpretation of
art and in their focus, as the concept of art itself is controversial.
However, according to each and everyone of them, juggling is a form of
art:
(1) Subjective definition of the artist (the juggler)
(2) Lack of functionality
(3) Aesthetics
(4) Relations with nature

After establishing that juggling is actually an art form, I would like
to examine the claim that juggling is a unique, independent, form of
art. What is the difference, then, between dance that tries to do the
same and juggling?

There are two big differences. The first is history, The history of
juggling and its development is closely ties with that of performing
arts, but is a type of folk art, which was not related to the message
passed on in story-telling, dance or theatre.

The history influences the content in modern juggling. Unlike
performing arts (dance, theatre, etc.), the juggler hardly tries to
pass on a story within the creation or performance, neither does he
aim to represent hindered ideas. The composition and aesthetic of the
performance is what counts.

It should be mentioned at this point, that the borders between arts
are very much blurred in modern period. In this context, one can claim
that theatre, or dance, are also abstract, and lack any message.

Like theatre, dance or story-telling, types of juggling existed
historically in very different cultures, and were always considered
separate from the other mentioned forms of art.

Juggling is consisted upon the "The appreciation of the pattern for
what it is. The skill needed to make it happen, its form, flow and
beauty, it symmetry of lack thereof"
(<http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22juggling+as+art%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3naklt%247pc%40newsbf02.news.aol.com&rnum=1>.
This focus on aesthetics, on harmony, separates it from other
performance arts.

Moreover, the rejection of juggling as a unique form of art, based on
the fact that it is a folk, popular, and entertaining art (unlike some
sort of theatre or dance), is a sort of cultural colonialism, or
elitist vision of art - which disscludes the popular from the
discipline.

Other interesting definition of art: 
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=Cxqy4I.7A2%40murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dart%2Bdefinition%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3DCxqy4I.7A2%2540murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU%26rnum%3D1
(two different definitions. One refers to Aesthetics and is also well
grounded in academic resources, if you need ones. The other bases
itself on the historical impact of the creation - what separates art
from decoration).

Other interesting source on juggling: 
Juggling, the Art and its Artists," by Karl-Heinz Ziethen and Andrew
Allen (ISBN 3-9801140-1-5)

I think that answered your question. However, if you need any more
clarifications on this answer, please contact me before you rate it.

Clarification of Answer by politicalguru-ga on 22 Aug 2002 06:29 PDT
My search terms: 
juggling art 
joggling art (a common typo)
"juggling as art" (also in google groups)
art definition

Request for Answer Clarification by ochenk-ga on 23 Aug 2002 21:37 PDT
Hi,

  First off, thank you. Nicely done. Just a few questions.

  Part 1, the reasoning to claim juggling as an art form, was well
done. Clear, concise. Nice.

  Part 2, I'm not sure I quite followed. If I understood correctly,
point A was that dance and theater are traditionally narrative and
juggling, traditionally, is non-narrative. When theater becomes
non-narrative, if often becomes 'reclassified' as performance art. If
juggling becomes narrative, does it then become theater or dance?
Point B was that, the fact that juggling is popular, or I'm assuming
you mean accessible, does not hinder its ability to be 'artistic.' I'm
not sure how that would be considered a proof. Rather, just addressing
an anticipated counterpoint. Did I misunderstand these points?

  The second part is the tougher proof, definitely. Especially, as you
say, the borders are blurring. If you feel that you would rather not
invest any more time then you have already, I understand, and will be
happy to rate the current response. (favorably, of course.)

Thanks again.

Ochen K.

Oh, and by the way, 'joggling' is not a typo. Joggling is the
combination of juggling while jogging. It's a popular juggling sport.
Not what I, personally, would consider 'artistic.'

Clarification of Answer by politicalguru-ga on 27 Aug 2002 08:07 PDT
Dear Ochenk,

Don't think I forgot all about you, I just came back from a long
weekend and had to complete other chores, so I apologise it took me
some time to reply.

You raised some interesting questions. I think we should first look at
the focus of the artistic medium, one of its bases. If one medium is
focused on narrative while other(s) are not - we can claim that this
basis is essential to its definition as a unique type of art.

The claim that theatre or dance - without narrative - become
performance art and are not separated from juggling disregards a
postmodernist artistic space, whereas every medium's borders are
indeed blurred, but in the same time they are defined by its essence.
Like there's a difference between Video Art and Cinematic art
(movies), despite the fact that sometimes the borders between the two
are blurred - there's a difference in the essence of what composes
juggling versus what composes dance or theatre - even when these are
conceptual or seemingly lacking narrative.

The "language" of juggling is different than the "language" of other
mediums. These mediums might use very similar contents, but cannot be
viewed, nor interpreted, in the same way.

As for the point regarding the history of juggling, it was more of a
claim on the fact that it also differs from dance and theatre in its
cultural basis, or in the cultural sources it stemmed from.

I hope that clarifies my points, but please contact me if you need
anything else (and yes, I also find the second point much harder to
proof than the first one).
ochenk-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
Thank-you. I am much more intellectually satisfied with the notion of
'essentialities' defining the form, and therefore the distinctions
between forms - as in your example of video art only being
'reclassified' when it is produced using non-video technology. Nicely
done. I appreciate the work you've put into my question. When I return
to town (mid October), I will be posting a few follow-up questions
relating to the 'essentialities' of various forms. I hope you'll take
a crack at them too. Thank you again

Ochen K.

Comments  
Subject: Re: juggling as art
From: huntsman-ga on 21 Aug 2002 04:17 PDT
 
Be sure to include the dynamic art of Michael Moschen:

   Michael Moschen Home Page
   http://www.micocci.com/moschen/

   Michael Moschen Bio
   http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Culture/BluenoseJugglers/moschen.html

   Internet Juggling Database
   Michael Moschen

   Michael Moschen 
   ://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=Michael+Moschen+
Subject: Re: juggling as art
From: huntsman-ga on 21 Aug 2002 04:21 PDT
 
That third link should be:

   Internet Juggling Database
   Michael Moschen 
   http://www.jugglingdb.com/jugglewiki/index.php?MichaelMoschen

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