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Subject: Which social/public Web page discussion/annotation systems have existed?
Category: Computers > Internet
Asked by: boog-ga
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Posted: 17 Sep 2005 05:20 PDT
Expires: 17 Oct 2005 05:20 PDT
Question ID: 569057
Which software or plugins have existed (or still exist) that let you
comment on Web pages, talk about Web pages, or annotate Web pages
while you're visiting them?

I seem to recall there being a quite popular plugin for the Web
browser during the dot-com times which let ordinary visitors leave
comments on sites for other visitors to then see. It wasn't
StumbleUpon. Can anyone tell me which systems have existed to do this?
The requirement is that these systems were public, in the sense that
other unknown users of the product could come along and talk,
annotate, etc... not just some in-house annotation system.
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Subject: Re: Which social/public Web page discussion/annotation systems have existed?
From: elids-ga on 17 Sep 2005 06:32 PDT
 
Not sure if this answers your question but here it is anyways, people
seem to ask about what I read just a couple of days later.... what's
up with that ... :-)
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Will web users ?Flock? to social surfing?

* 18:26 15 September 2005

A ?social? web browser has been created to meet the needs of a new
generation of web users who want to edit, comment on and share web
content, rather than just peruse it.

With the underlying capabilities of a basic web browser like
Microsoft's Internet Explorer or Mozilla's Firefox, the new browser,
called Flock ? after the buzz it hopes to create ? adds features
specifically designed to make writing, editing, sharing and displaying
web content faster and easier.

?The problem is that the web browser has remained fairly stable over
the last 10 years, but the web has changed quite a bit,? says its
creator, Silicon Valley-based Bart Decrem, who left the Mozilla
Foundation to build Flock. ?It has gone from a collection of static
documents into something that has a largely social dimension to it.?

By seamlessly integrating tools for blogging, photo blogging and
shared bookmarks into the browser, he hopes Flock will be the first
browser to meet the needs of the next generation of collaborative,
social web users, which currently number over 10 million and call
themselves ?Web 2.0?.

?Even the word browser is a problem for us,? says Geoffrey Arone, the
other co-founder. ?It seems like such a passive term.?
Not-instant photos

The browser will not be available to the general public until October
2005. But since it was demonstrated at a conference in Palo Alto,
California, US, at the end of August, a trial version has been given
to a small group of acquaintances for testing. They are largely
enthusiastic.

Although blogging tools ? such as Blogger by Google and Movable Type
by Six Apart ? were supposed to make posting content to the web easy
for anyone with a broadband connection, it is still not easy enough,
says Roland Tanglao, a blogger based in Vancouver, Canada, who is
already using the Flock browser. ?It?s kind of an awkward process,? he
explains.

Most frustrating and time-consuming is adding photos, say most
bloggers. Right now the best way to do this is to log in to a web site
called Flickr, download photos there, and then create a link from
Flickr to the blog.

But the photos are not always formatted correctly in the blog and it
is time-consuming to log into both the photo site and the blog site,
says Mike Arrington, another Flock tester, based in Los Angeles,
California, who edits the blog TechCrunch. Flock solves some of this
by allowing photos to be simply dragged and dropped from Flickr into
the blog.
Fostering innovation

Flock is also designed so that as you type your blog and paste photos,
you see the blog exactly as it will appear when it is published, a
highly desirable and time-saving property known as WYSIWYG (pronounced
?whizz-ee-wigg?), for ?What You See Is What You Get?.

?It?s still crude but the potential is there,? says Tanglao. A single
button lets you switch between the underlying html code, and the
WYSIWIG image.

Flock also highlights how open source projects can foster innovation.
Its basic browser capabilities use the same code as Firefox, which can
be built upon by anyone because it is open source. ?It has all the
benefits of Firefox and adds some really cool features,? says
Arrington.

Even less tech-savvy users will flock to Flock?s ?social bookmarking?
feature, Tanglao hopes.

This allows bookmarks to be accessed from any PC and shared to create
an index of popular tagged pages that can be searched by other users.
This capability is currently provided by the site http://del.icio.us
but is not yet used by many mainstream web surfers.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8003
Subject: Re: Which social/public Web page discussion/annotation systems have existed?
From: boog-ga on 17 Sep 2005 06:46 PDT
 
Thanks for that. Unfortunately it's not quite relevant, as Flock is
very much Web 2.0, and I'm trying to think of systems that used
plugins and/or were around before the whole Web 2.0 "thing". I seem to
recall a ratings/bookmarking/annotation system from the pre-2004 era,
and am unable to find mention of it again. Thanks though!
Subject: Re: Which social/public Web page discussion/annotation systems have existed?
From: boog-ga on 20 Oct 2005 13:20 PDT
 
I found it by accident in the end.. it was called Third Voice or Third
World or something like that..

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