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Emergency use Air conditioner question
Category: Family and Home > Home Asked by: pensacola-ga List Price: $25.00 |
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18 Sep 2005 20:11 PDT
Expires: 18 Oct 2005 20:11 PDT Question ID: 569539 |
Time Limit: 1 month I have a second story casement (crank open) type window with the hinge on the right side. The dimensions are 25 width by 55 height (inches). I also have a hard-wired backup generator (12500w). I would like to put in a portable (rollable) type A/C so that I can use it for the next power outage with a hurricane. The problem i have is with venting the unit. When I crank the window open, I get a triangular opening at the top and bottom, and an rectangular opening at the side. I would need to somehow fill this void and make it rainproof. I cannot access this window from outside, as it is very high and there is no adjacent window. The other option would be to have a small window unit in the closet that can be easily installed without killing my back or putting huge screws and putty into my new window casings. The obvious solution would be to make a plywood template and then screw it in place. This would wreck the casement. Any answers are appreciated. | |
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Re: Emergency use Air conditioner question
From: redhoss-ga on 18 Sep 2005 20:48 PDT |
How about something like this: http://www.atlassales.com/mini_specs_pac220.html |
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Re: Emergency use Air conditioner question
From: pensacola-ga on 19 Sep 2005 07:01 PDT |
Yes, any of these portable type units would work. The problem is not finding an acceptable unit; the problem is venting it. |
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Re: Emergency use Air conditioner question
From: myoarin-ga on 19 Sep 2005 07:12 PDT |
I expect that a unit would have a 5" or 10" venting hose. What about a piece of plywood with the appropriate sized hole that fit closely in the open window frame? Plexiglass would work too, but more expensive. Perhaps two pieces would be easier to manage and might be necessary to fit them in place. I expect that the window frame is metal, probably with a flange that the pieces could be wedged against. |
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Re: Emergency use Air conditioner question
From: pensacola-ga on 19 Sep 2005 08:16 PDT |
This is what the window looks like: http://www.kolbe-kolbe.com/photoGallery/index.cfm?page=photogallery&sub=photoGalleryDetail&rlspage=226&pcat=15&startrow=61 Yes, the plywood would create a closure that you could put a hose through. If i am going the plywood screwed to the expensive-finish all wood (no metal) casing route, I would just bolt up the plywood and put in a window unit. That may be the only answer, but I was hoping someone would have a unique solution that I just haven't thought of. |
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Re: Emergency use Air conditioner question
From: myoarin-ga on 19 Sep 2005 17:09 PDT |
I got the picture - nice! I still imagine that the frame is stepped so that the plywood would not fall out, just need to be fastened it some way, ... Ah, but now it occurs to me that if there is a stepping of some kind, one could have the board an inch or so larger than the dimensions of the window frame and hang it on the bottom of the frame (appropriately dimensioned wooden blocks), with similar blocks on the side and top that could be turned - toggles - to hook inside the window frame on the other three sides. Probably should have a good handle or two mounted on the plywood to hold it while it is being put in place (have to turn it to get it out through the open window). Was that comprehensible? I really like this, because it gets the board on the outside, better for rain protection, and eliminates your worries about marring your frame. In principle, this would work regardless of the details of the window frame, since the "hooks" and toggles could be big enough to catch on the room-side of the frame. How's that? If it works, you can sell the idea up and down the coast (but not in Mobile, grew up there and have my own agent ;) Myoarin |
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Re: Emergency use Air conditioner question
From: pafalafa-ga on 19 Sep 2005 17:17 PDT |
Hello pensacola-ga, Did you see my request for clarification comments (above, right under your question)? If so, I'd like to know your thoughts. paf |
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Re: Emergency use Air conditioner question
From: pensacola-ga on 19 Sep 2005 21:50 PDT |
I do really like the toggle idea. If you could just guide me a little. There is a brick ledge on the outside, so supporting it there is not a problem. I will need to keep the plywood pulled tight enough to the frame to make it stable. If I understand, the plywood will overlap the entire window frame an inch or so. I will have bolts with washers on the outside of the plywood. There will be padded blocks on the inside that will be twisted into position. What keeps the wood from pulling away from the edge of the frame (it seems like there would be a triangular gap with the block only touching at the very edge of the frame). Would it be better just to put a padded 2x4 at the top, middle, and bottom all the way across the window frame on the inside with wing nuts to tighten them? I could have a platform built into the plywood to support the a/c unit once the apparatus is in place. |
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Re: Emergency use Air conditioner question
From: myoarin-ga on 20 Sep 2005 05:57 PDT |
Pensi, Glad you like the idea, and you are already ahead of me with bolts and washers and padded blocks for the toggles. These could be tightened with thumbscrews, but you've probably envisioned that already. I don't understand where the triangular gap would appear. We've got a sheet of plywood slightly larger than the frame (25+" by 55+"), man-handled out to rest on the brick sill (got to have those handles). The toggles are hanging loosely on their bolts, maybe three on each side and one in the middle at the top. When the toggles have been turned and tightened, where is the triangular gap? Your idea with the 2x4s would work, no doubt, but with 1/2" or 3/4" plywood, to me this seems unnecessary. ?? About your rack for the a/c unit: I have been considering a portable floor unit (your back!) with this as a solution for blocking the open window with a hole for the vent hose. I wouldn't want to burden our construction with a window a/c unit. Are there ones than fit the <25" space? Let me know what you think, and further questions. Regards, Myoarin |
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Re: Emergency use Air conditioner question
From: pensacola-ga on 20 Sep 2005 06:30 PDT |
What i mean by a triangular gap is that the bolts will tend to want to lean inward (towards the center of the window opening). The thickness of the window casing will be about 6-8" from exterior face to interior face. The wooden toggle will not stay parallel to the wall, but will want to lean inward towards the window opening. That is why i am wondering if i need a 2x4 to span the entire 25" of the width of the window frame. I think you're right about the portable unit. They do make small window units that are cheaper and probably more reliable than portable; but, If i use a portable, i could use just 1/4" plywood and not support any load. I may try that first and then go to the window unit if needed. Let me know what you think about the toggle design and thanks for the answer. I will send payment after your comment (i don't know if it will kill the thread if i do it now). Thanks again. |
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Re: Emergency use Air conditioner question
From: myoarin-ga on 20 Sep 2005 07:50 PDT |
Gotcha! The toggles should have a broad base on the plywood, extending away from the side that hooks onto the frame. Hmm, can I make a diagram? ___!_!____________ ! ! ! ! ! ! ! / ______! ! ! / ! ! ! / !_________!_!________/ ! ! ^ bolt hole Kind of crude, but I hope you get the idea. That should keep 1/4" plywood flat, but I would go for a bit thicker stuff, that will be stiffer between the toggles. I am a stingy SOB, but have learned that it is better not to skimp on material (marine quality plywood, too). ;) Which reminds me: if the board rests on the brick sill, be sure to include the extra length if you have it cut to measure where you buy it. Thank you for your offer to pay, but only Researchers like Pafalafa and Redhoss, whose names appear in blue, can "answer" questions and receive payment. It has been my pleasure to help. I hope the next big storm does not come your way. Take care, Myoarin |
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