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growth of the number of scientist over the last 300 years
Category: Science > Social Sciences Asked by: ludl-ga List Price: $50.00 |
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22 Sep 2005 08:51 PDT
Expires: 10 Oct 2005 13:09 PDT Question ID: 570984 |
I would need some information and references about the growth of the number of scientists in the world over the last 300 years (on some reasonable definition of who counts as a scientist). I?m mainly interested in the ?big picture?, i.e., the number of scientists at different points in time, e.g. 1700, 1750, 1800, 1850, ? 2005, or the doubling rate over the last 300 years. De Solla Price famously claimed in the 1960s that the number of scientists grew with a doubling rate of 15 years over the last 300 years, and that ?80 to 90 percent of all scientists who have ever lived are still alive today?. Is this still true today? |
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Re: growth of the number of scientist over the last 300 years
From: curious90210-ga on 22 Sep 2005 13:32 PDT |
Here is a superficial, and perhaps diverging comment: Although, I am not sure of the numbers, I believe that people who can formally be called "scientists" have increased as a proportion of the population in the last 300 years. The reasons for this could be that more and more communities are embracing rational thought and using science/research as a primary tool in making money. However, even as a PhD student in a reputed engineering college (among top 10 in US), my observation is that mediocrity in science (as in other fields) is becoming more and more endemic as more opportunities are opening up for more people. What I mean is that even in good universities, as the number of scientists is increasing, the average quality of research and the proportion of fundamental and path-breaking work is decreasing. With more precendents to follow of how to do something, people who are not really trailblazers can enter professions that required free-thought by following well-studied examples. Or they start out as a brilliant scientist, but once established, they quickly find a comfortable position where they can indulge more in academic politics and nurturing their feifdoms, shying away from further growth and learning. They also start cotries that would reinforce their ideas rather than promoting people who can challenge their ideas. Anyway, enough rambling. But, you can see a disillusioned scientist here. Well, not all is so gloomy as I potrayed... but I just wanted to show one particular side of it. PS: Someone told me that the amount of "knowledge" doubles every 17 years. I have no idea what he meant by "knowledge"... perhaps he meant "written knowledge" PPS: I am not a US citizen. I came here to learn and see a society that is one of the most rational in the world. With the christian revivalists talking about things like "intelligent design" to gain backdoor entry into the world of science, I predict a loss of current status of US as epitome of several things. Citizens of US, please save your country and be vigilant about the murder of rationality that is going on. |
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Re: growth of the number of scientist over the last 300 years
From: curious90210-ga on 22 Sep 2005 13:35 PDT |
"The reasons for this could be that more and more communities are embracing rational thought and using science/research as a primary tool in making money" [please add] "and improving lives." |
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Re: growth of the number of scientist over the last 300 years
From: myoarin-ga on 23 Sep 2005 07:35 PDT |
Curious is on the right track. There is inflation in what is called a scientist. I just browsed a bunch of sites on the "Augustinerpater Johann Gregor Mendel", often called the father of modern genetics, but the sites and history don't call him a scientist or in German: "Wissenschaftler". Ditto for many others: people who designed clocks, discovered chemical processes by experiment, inventors and engineers: "clever craftsmen" who today would stand head and shoulders over a multitude of people who call themselves scientists. But the word ?scientist? is not so old, this from etymonline: "scientist 1834, coined from L. scientia (see science) by Eng. philosopher William Whewell (1794-1866) by analogy with artist." But, in their defense, it must be admitted that expansion of scientific knowledge provides an expanding field for researchers. |
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