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Subject: tlspiegel
Category: Family and Home > Pets
Asked by: charidea-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 27 Sep 2005 14:59 PDT
Expires: 27 Oct 2005 14:59 PDT
Question ID: 573435
looking for more in depth information on how to pick a hypoallergenic
dog, expanding earlier question about dog allergies.

Request for Question Clarification by tlspiegel-ga on 28 Sep 2005 20:20 PDT
Hi charidea,

Just a quick note, letting you know I've seen your question and I'll
be working on it ASAP.  Presently involved with a prior commitment,
but I'll be researching and posting an answer very soon.  Thank you
for your patience!

Best regards,

Request for Question Clarification by tlspiegel-ga on 28 Sep 2005 21:04 PDT
Hi charidea,

Before I proceed on this new question, I'll need some help from you.

On the first question, you posted "so i guess what we heard is wrong
("poodles have hair and most dogs have fur" --?--so... ) "supposedly
anything crossed with a poodle [your 'poos' and 'oodles'] have a
better chance of being hypoallergenic than anything else.... "

i wonder if there's a way to rank the 'oodles' and 'poos' (given
caution about variation in litter)?"

Will you clarify what you mean by 'RANK'?  The list of breeds I gave
you in my first answer specifically stated a definitive list of
hypoallergenic dogs with the disclaimer about dander, and people being
sensitive to one breed and not another, etc.

I honestly don't know how to rank the oodles and poos, because those
dogs are mixed breeds.  I'll see if I can find a list of oodles and
poos considered to be hypoallergenic.  Would that be satisfactory?  I
don't think that will be a problem!  If it is, I'll let you know.

So, please indicate if a list is satisfactory for you, but it won't be
in ranking order from least to most hypoallergenic... or vice versa.

Now, your second question asks for more in depth information on HOW TO
PICK a hypoallergenic dog, expanding upon earlier question about dog
allergies.  I'll proceed with that but keep in mind, what might be a
hypoallergenic dog to one person, might cause anything from sneezing
to asthsma in another.

I see no problem with posting "how to pick an hypoallergenic dog breed".

Thanks for your help!
Subject: Re: tlspiegel
Answered By: tlspiegel-ga on 28 Sep 2005 23:09 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
Hi charidea,

Thank you for requesting me to answer another one of your dog questions.  :)

List of hypoallergenic oodles, doodles and poo breed dogs

Please keep in mind hypo means less, not none.  Hypoallergenic means
to have a decreased tendency to cause allergies and hybrid dog breeds
are commonly sold as not causing allergies.

Poodles have an undercoat, which results in less shedding...  "poo",
"oodle", and "doodle" mixes are popular due to their low allergen
quality. Poodles have hair instead of fur. They do not shed and many
people with allergies can live under the same roof with them, so
they're mixed with other breeds.

While some breeders claim that their mixed breed is a hypoallergenic
canine, allergists believe that there is no such thing as a
hypoallergenic animal. There have been no studies to date verifying
whether any canine or canine mix is hypoallergenic. Man's best blend

"Across suburbia, new breeds with funny-sounding names are capturing
hearts and wallets. Most mixes are one part poodle because poodles
tend to be hypoallergenic and not to shed, a godsend for any dog lover
who has allergies or likes to wear black. Poodle offspring can inherit
this owner-friendly trait, even when one of the parents isn't a

This got breeders thinking...if the hypoallergenic gene can be passed
along, why not other genes? Poodles live longer, have better eyesight
and are more intelligent, agile and energetic than most breeds."

To be more specific let's take the example of a union between a Golden
Retriever plus a Poodle = Goldendooodle.  But, remember - the
following applies to ALL hybrids.

========= - Goldendoodle.

"Some breeders allege that the Goldendoodle standard is an F1 (first
generation) pairing between purebred Poodle and Golden Retriever
parents. Other breeders maintain a looser definition and include under
the classification what's known as an F1 backcross Goldendoodle, or
F1-B. This dog results from a union of Goldendoodle plus Poodle or
Goldendoodle plus Golden Retriever parents. Those marketing F1-B
puppies resulting from an F1 paired with a Poodle typically maintain
that such animals achieve the same hypoallergenic qualities as the
purebred Poodle."

I wasn't able to find any specific list of hypollaergenic oodles and
poos because the possiblities are endless regarding hybrid breeds in
general, and breeders claiming "hypoallergenic!".

Perhaps this will be helpful.

Dog Owners Guide - Much Ado About Poo

"Meet the Poo's: Yorkie-Poo's, Cock-a-Poo's, Lhasa-Poo's,
Beag-A-Poo's, Peke-A-Poo's, Pom-Poo's, Doxie-Poo's and Terri-Poo's,
just to name a few. Meet their cousins, the Cocker-Chons and the
Bi-Tzu. This large and incredibly diverse family of dogs includes such
?breeds? as Cock-a-Shels and Malt-oodles; everything from the imposing
Rott-a-Dor down to the diminutive Peke-A-Pom and Yorki-Huahua. What do
these dogs with the whimsical breed names have in common? The fact
that they're not real breeds at all. They're mongrels ? mixed breeds ?
masquerading as something glamorous, valuable and highly desirable.
Yorkie-Poo's are simply Yorkshire Terriers crossed with Poodles.  A
Bi-Tzu is a Bichon Frise/Shih Tzu mix. Cock-a-Shels result when Cocker
Spaniels are bred to Shelties (Shetland Sheepdogs) and Rott-A-Dors
occur when a Rottweiler and a Labrador Retriever join forces. New
breeds? Hardly. Behind the hype and the clever name is a common mutt."


"We're combining the best of both breeds into one! Shelties shed but
Poodles don't. A Shelti-Poo will look like a Sheltie but not shed.
"Not exactly. Genetics doesn't work that way. Some Shelti-Poos might
fit this description but many won't. A breeder can't pick and choose
what features will be passed on from each breed - it's strictly a
matter of luck because the genetic combinations involved in the
crossing of breeds is random and unpredictable. There is just as much
of a chance that the puppy will grow up to have the worst
characteristics of both breeds! The selection of certain traits is
achieved only by generations of careful breeding, discarding dogs that
don't have the desired qualities and narrowing the gene pool until the
right combinations occur with regularity."


The word Spy
poo X n. A poodle cross; a dog that results from the cross between a
purebred poodle and another canine breed. Also: poo-x.

Here's a list of just a few of the most popular of these canine cocktails.   

Bernie-poo (Bernese mountain dog x standard poodle)
Bichon-poo (Bichon frise x toy or miniature poodle)
Cockapoo (Cocker spaniel x toy or miniature poodle)
Golden-poo (Golden retriever x standard poodle)
Jack-a-poo (Jack Russell terrier x toy or miniature poodle)
Labradoodle (Labrador x standard poodle)
Lhasa-poo (Lhasa apso x toy or miniature poodle)
Maltie-poo (Maltese x toy or miniature poodle)
Peke-a-poo (Pekinese x toy or miniature poodle)
Poma-poo (Pomeranian x toy or miniature poodle)
Pug-a-poo (Pug x toy or miniature poodle)
Schnoodle (Miniature schnauzer x toy or miniature poodle)
Scoodle (Scottish terrier x toy or miniature poodle)
Shih-poo or shi-poo (Shih-tzu x toy or miniature poodle)
Spoodle (Spaniel x toy or miniature poodle)
Terri-poo (Terrier x toy or miniature poodle)
Westie-poo (West Highland terrier x toy or miniature poodle)
Yorkie-poo (Yorkshire terrier x toy or miniature poodle) 

========= forum

Here's a list of the most popular "-oodles" 

Sad, huh? And I had no idea there was an American Canine Hybrid CLUB!


I posted in my first answer information provided from

"hypoallergenic dog breeds 

A few years ago, the AKC allergy listed some dog breeds which they
considered to be the most suitable for allergic people.  We are not
sure why this list is no longer present on their page, however we
still find it to be a useful reference. We are presenting the list
below, along with a few other ?hypoallergenic breeds? we uncovered in
our research:"

(see list)

Considering the list, it would stand to reason that a union between
any of those dog breeds considered to be most hypoallergenic 'could'
be hypoallergenic mixes to a great extent.

For ex., a cross between a Bichon Frise and a Poodle might work out
quite nicely.  These are called Bich-poo (Poochon)


Is that a Labradoodle?

"If you have allergies, and are looking for a dog: 

Allergies are associated with the dander produced by the dog and not
the dog himself or the dog hair. Dander is the dry skin that flakes
off, floats through the air and induces the classics signs of allergy.
A low dander dog is what you should be looking for. The best thing you
can do is choose a breed, and spend some time with one for a day, and
see how it affects your allergies.

The 1998 AKC allergy info page lists the Poodle, Bichon Frise,
Bedlington Terrier, Miniature Schnauzer, Kerry Blue Terrier, Soft
Coated Wheaten Terrier, Maltese, Portuguese Water Dog, Italian
Greyhound, Basenji and the Chinese Crested."


List of Hypo Allergenic Dogs

"Before reading through our list of hypo allergenic dogs, please keep
in mind that all dogs carry small amounts of allergens or can pick up
allergens from outside in their fur and further, each specific dog
within a breed may cause different allergic responses. To keep the
allergy risk low you should bath and groom as frequently as your
breeder suggests. (Bathing some dogs too often will remove oils from
their coat, causing their skin to flake and potentially cause
allergies) If your family is especially sensitive to a pet?s dander
you should be careful about having your pet groomed in the vicinity of
other breeds, or should request specifically that the dog be rinsed
after he is clipped. (Most groomers bathe and then clip to keep the
oils from the dogs skin out of their clippers)

Below is a list of hypo Allergenic dogs. If you are looking for a hypo
Allergenic dog to bring into a home with family members with allergies
any of these dogs may be a match for your home. No dog is 100% hypo
Allergenic, but most people allergic to dogs react different ways to
different breeds. Even if your allergic family member has a reaction
to a particular breed of dog the breeder claims is hypo allergenic
that family member may be fine with other breeds deemed hypo

The following is a list of dog breeds generally considered to be Hypo Allergenic:

(see list)

How to pick a hypoallergenic dog breed

Now, we've gathered a list of possible mixed breed dogs that are
hypoallergenic, so the next question is how to pick one of those dogs.
 Well, the answer lies in your preferences - what are the desirable
traits YOU find most attractive in a dog breed?

We've narrowed the huge list from ALL dog breeds to hypoallergenics. 
A good place to start your research is by checking out the American
Kennel Club's complete list of breeds.

Go to the page American Kennel Club

On the right side of the page you'll see a search box.  Type the name 
of the following breeds and see what appeals to you.   Click on the
arrow.   You'll come to a short explanation about the breed.  Click on
the link American Kennel Club and you'll be taken to a more in depth

For ex., for a short description of the Havenese:

Then click here for a long in depth article:

Here is the breed list.

Bichon Frise 
Miniature Schnauzer 
Kerry Blue Terrier 
Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier 
Portugese Water Dog 
Italian Greyhound 
Chinese Crested
Mexican Hairless (Xoloitzcuintle)

Breed selectors

You'll want to see what kind of dog appeals to you, and then narrow
the choices selected down according to the list of hypoallergenics.

Welcome to BestDOG!

Click on Shedding:


"Some dogs shed their coats, leaving hair around your house, while
others don't. If you hate vacuuming and brushing the furniture, you
will be happier with a dog that has a low value for Shedding. Dogs
that shed are also allergenic--if you're allergic to animals that
shed, you should get a dog that doesn't shed (low value). Some dog
experts say there is no such thing as a dog that doesn't shed since
even people shed some hairs. We have joined the opposite camp, and
give some dogs like Poodles and Pulis a zero (no shedding) for this
trait. Most people should select 0 and use importance to determine
your BestDOG because, all other traits being equal, a dog that sheds
less is preferable to one that sheds more."

Click on Breed - For ex., Toy Poodle

You'll be taken to a page that lists:

Exercise Needs  27 
Good with Children  20 
Obedience Trainability  96 
Watchdog Behavior  90 
Aggression  43 
Guard Dog Behavior  10 
Grooming Needs  44 
Size (lbs.)  5 
Intelligence  96 
Intensity  30 
Shedding  6 
Sociability  30 
Emotional Stability 30


Dog Breed Information Center



"Complete this questionnaire by selecting the appropriate button for
each question and our computer will compare your needs and
surroundings against those of 100 different breeds.The computer will
select up to four breeds most likely to suit your needs."

Scroll 1/4 down the page to WHICH IS THE DOG FOR YOU? 


Dog Selector

The site pages are self explanatory.  Clicking on NEXT.

======== - Quiz For Choosing a Dog



Picking out a new dog (puppy): (TREATING YOUR DOG LIKE YOUR CHILD IS A


Lastly - Time for a little giggle.  I found this list a while back and
saved it because it made me laugh.  :)

Pointer + Setter = Poinsetter, a traditional Christmas pet

Kerry Blue Terrier + Skye Terrier = Blue Skye, a dog for visionaries

Great Pyrenees + Dachshund = Pyradachs, a puzzling breed

Pekingnese + Lhasa Apso = Peekasso, an abstract dog

Irish Water Spaniel + English Springer Spaniel = Irish Springer, a dog
fresh and clean as a whistle

Labrador Retriever + Curly Coated Retriever = Lab Coat Retriever, the
choice of research scientists

Newfoundland + Basset Hound = Newfound Asset Hound, a dog for financial advisors

Terrier + Bulldog = Terribull, a dog that makes awful mistakes

Bloodhound + Labrador = Blabador, a dog that barks incessantly

Malamute + Pointer = Moot Point, owned by....oh, well, it doesn't matter anyway

Collie + Malamute = Commute, a dog that travels to work

Deerhound + Terrier = Derriere, a dog that's true to the end

Bull Terrier + Shitzu = Bullshitz, a gregarious but unreliable breed

keyword search:

hypoallergenic mixed dog breeds
list oodles and poos
how to pick hypoallergenic dog breed

Best regards,

Request for Answer Clarification by charidea-ga on 30 Sep 2005 20:40 PDT
wow. i just got your answer. let me digest it all. i'm not sure if it
was so important how i asked the question, but the dilemma was posed
to me this way. for example a labradoodle is on a lot of lists as a
hypoallergenic dog but labs are high allergy and poodles low. so is
their offspring really more in the middle (i'm generalizing i know)...
as opposed to a dog NOT bred with the famously low allergy poodle, say
a dog like a schnauzer? but let me read your stuff and see if it
answers me. thanks

Clarification of Answer by tlspiegel-ga on 30 Sep 2005 21:43 PDT
Hi charidea,

I read your clarification and I think the best way I can answer that
part of your question is this way:

-  IF you go with a hypoallergenic breed you'll be OK.
-  IF you go with a mix of one hypoallergenic and another
hypoallergenic you'll "probably" end up with a dog that is again
hypoallergenic to a great extent.

-  IF you go with a mix such as a poodle/labrador (for ex.,) you're
chances of having a problem go up a bit.

No one can tell you when and if you'll have a problem - it's really
just a wait and see.  If you brush, comb, and bathe, you'll cut down
on allergens.

Allergens are strange.  You can eat chocolate all your life and never
have a problem until one day you break out in hives.  You go to the
doctor and find out you're suddenly allergic to chocolate.  Big Huge
Bummer.  But, that's how they work.  People get shots so they can be
around a cat, dog, or eat a certain food.

The following list of dogs are considered hypoallergenic.  Either
select one breed, or select a mix of two of those breeds and you'll
"probably" be OK.

Bichon Frise 
Miniature Schnauzer 
Kerry Blue Terrier 
Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier 
Portugese Water Dog 
Italian Greyhound 
Chinese Crested
Mexican Hairless (Xoloitzcuintle)

Best regards,
charidea-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
the guy's great on animals!

Subject: Re: tlspiegel
From: tlspiegel-ga on 01 Oct 2005 08:46 PDT
Hi charidea,

Thank you for the 5 star rating and comments. :)  

(Hint - I'm not a guy though!)

The funny thing is even my real life first name to a great extent is a
boy's name more than a girl's name.  I get a lot of mail addressed to


Thanks again and I'm happy to answer any of your pet questions,

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