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Subject:
Oil depletion impact on earth
Category: Science Asked by: johnner79-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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28 Sep 2005 08:40 PDT
Expires: 28 Oct 2005 08:40 PDT Question ID: 573747 |
I would like to know if there is any science available that has determined what the impact on the earths surface will be when we have totally depleted the subterranean oils? |
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Re: Oil depletion impact on earth
From: qed100-ga on 28 Sep 2005 13:23 PDT |
I'm not a geologist, so I can't give you an expert assessment. But I can say that oil isn't, as many people visualise it, trapped in cavernous pockets, which would be left spatiously empty once the oil is drained from them. On the contrary, crude oil is trapped amid porous rock. It's closer to being held in a sponge than a cave. So when the crude oil is finally exhausted from an underground reservoir, there's really plenty of stuff still in that region to support the weight of the strata above. Do you see movies of an oil well at the moment it taps the reserve? It gushes because it's under tremendous pressure from the weight of the overlying layers of rock. As oil is drained that pressure drops. In time it takes agressive work to force more oil out of the ground. Eventually it costs more to pump what's left than will be made by selling it at market prices, and so the field is abandoned. But one way or another, the pressure is off the liquid oil, yet the ground remains effectively intact. There's plenty of space-occupying stuff left in the field to support the overlying strata, which itself is usually thousands of feet deep. Consider this: There are many places with networks of caves not more than a few hundred feet beneath the surface. These caves really are vast empty caverns, yet the ground above doesn't settle. |
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Re: Oil depletion impact on earth
From: hfshaw-ga on 28 Sep 2005 13:55 PDT |
It is unlikely that we will ever "totally deplete" the subsurface of petroleum. As qed100 has pointed out, extracting petroleum (or any fluid) from the subsurface is like trying to suck water out of a sponge with a straw (the straw being analogous to an extraction well). There will always be some residual liquid in the matrix (rock or sponge) due to capillary forces. Even the most advanced of the current petroleum extraction technologies only recover about 20-40% of the oil that's present. Future advances might push this number to as much as 60% in favorable cases. That having been said, extraction of petroleum (and also groundwater) resources from the subsurface results in the subsidence of the land surface as the subsurface compacts in response to the extraction of fluid. This subsidence can be quite rapid; measurements of of subsidence rates as much as half a meter per year have been made using satellite-based radar interferometry. The general question of subsidence in response to petroleum extraction has already been addressed on Google Answers (see http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=335789). Note, however, that livioflores' comment on that question is absolutely incorrect. A Google search on 'subsidence petroleum' (without the quotes) will get you lots of additional information. |
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Re: Oil depletion impact on earth
From: sublime1-ga on 28 Sep 2005 20:13 PDT |
You might enjoy reading this book: The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight by Thom Hartmann http://www.thomhartmann.com/last.shtml |
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Re: Oil depletion impact on earth
From: vsssarma-ga on 01 Oct 2005 12:09 PDT |
I am a Mechanical Engineer. More appropriate is to say that I am in Petroleum field for over 26 years. Oil depletion appears to be a strategy to increase crude oil prices. If you see BP's Oil Reserve statistics, published every year and available on the net, you will note that world oil reserves are on the increase. Bruce Hamilton in his treatise on Gasoline has indicated that Oil is available for the next 4,000 years. The Abiotic Theory of oil is gaining the upper hand now. When Oil is taken out, water or other materials are pumped inside so that Oil comes out. In fact, oil is ejected out by the pumping of water, mud or Gas into the well. |
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Re: Oil depletion impact on earth
From: qed100-ga on 01 Oct 2005 12:27 PDT |
"Bruce Hamilton in his treatise on Gasoline has indicated that Oil is available for the next 4,000 years. The Abiotic Theory of oil is gaining the upper hand now." Interesting. But a treatise does not a fact make. Does Hamilton's argument propose an observational test, other than waiting another 4,000 years to see when oil actually expires? |
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Re: Oil depletion impact on earth
From: athena92595-ga on 05 Oct 2005 11:06 PDT |
Hi, I am a graduate student in meteorology but I did my undergrad in Environmental Science. There have been cases of the earth physically sinking due to the removal of underground water but none to my knowledge due to oil. When you think about it, oil is a product of time, ergo it will not usually be as close to the surface as water. The biggest impact to the surface of the earth will be a result of the actual process of removing the oil, particularly as we deplete those oil stores which are closer to the surface. Of greater concern than the impact to the earth's surface, is the impact to the atmosphere. Plants remove carbon from the air, store it in the soil, and over time it is burried. The cycle that would naturally liberate this carbon is very slow. Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and we are basically taking large concentrated stores of it and releasing it into the atmosphere, thus reducing the amount of immobilized carbon and increasing its concentration in the atmosphere. |
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Re: Oil depletion impact on earth
From: qed100-ga on 05 Oct 2005 12:58 PDT |
"Of greater concern than the impact to the earth's surface, is the impact to the atmosphere. Plants remove carbon from the air, store it in the soil, and over time it is burried. The cycle that would naturally liberate this carbon is very slow. Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and we are basically taking large concentrated stores of it and releasing it into the atmosphere, thus reducing the amount of immobilized carbon and increasing its concentration in the atmosphere." Yes. And this is very analogous to the potential hazard to the ecosystem by heat pollution. Let's say hypothetically that a so-called "clean" energy source is found, meaning that it releases no chemical wastes into the environment. It remains that use of an energy source entails conversion to work. Since no conversion process is 100% efficient, some of the energy invoked will find its way into the environment at large in the form of gross heat. If said source were also cheap and very abundant, a civilisation employing it liberally would be constantly pumping heat into Earth's thermosystem which in pre-technological times was nearly dormant. This is, of course, exemplified by any source of energy not found active on Earth. Oil and coal store chemical potential energy which at earlier times took, as you've said, millions of years to cycle through the system. The role of these was so slow that they presented no shock to the biological system. Fissioning Uranium is the same way, though I wouldn't say that its current use is at a critical level. Supposing however that nuclear fusion is perfected and is able to provide enormous wattages of energy. It would of course release energy which had for billions of year been stashed away in the nuclei of atoms. With a population as large as the one now standing, we could really hurt ourselves. |
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Re: Oil depletion impact on earth
From: foresdave-ga on 17 Oct 2005 11:09 PDT |
I am geology student currently researching and writing a report on subsidence due to subsurface fluid removal. Fluids underground are trapped in porous (spongelike) rocks and are usually under high pressure. Their removal can result in subsidence on the surface which forms a subsidence dome, however subsidence of over 2m is rare. An example of subsidence due to oil extraction is the Wilmington oilfield in California. This happens because the decrease in pore fluid pressure allows the rock strata above to compact the porous rock and subsidence results. Its impact though relitively small has been estimated to cost the US $100 million a year due to building damage and damage to the oil pumping infrastructure itself. One technique which aids fluid removal is the repressurisation of the porous rock with seawater or steam which can counteract the effect of a loss of pore fluid pressure due to hydrocarbon removal. You might also want to look into induced seismic activity which has been associated with this repressurisation, although it has also been linked to the construction of dams and other constructions. |
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Re: Oil depletion impact on earth
From: kathy2202-ga on 27 Oct 2005 14:58 PDT |
What is wrecking havoc on the earth's surface is the depletion of the earth's natural aquifiers. many predict that even before oil runs dry, water supply Mexico City has sunken over 30 feet in the past 100 years. Venice, Yemen, and many other places worldwide are facing similar situations due to aquifier depletion. |
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Re: Oil depletion impact on earth
From: vsssarma-ga on 03 Nov 2005 17:52 PST |
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