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Subject:
Bose Einstein Statistics
Category: Science Asked by: ivanyakov-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
30 Sep 2005 01:10 PDT
Expires: 30 Oct 2005 01:10 PDT Question ID: 574536 |
Hello, I have a few questions concerning the Bose Einstein Distribution. I recently came across the following link: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Bose-EinsteinDistribution.html I couldn't help but notice that in (1) there is a k^s term in the numerator. From what I've seen before, i've never encountered this k^s. Let me be more specific. Gamma(k) should be the energy distribution in this formula. When we take for example the Boltzmann blackbody radiation law in the following link: http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Stefan-BoltzmannLaw.html We can see that toward the end, the integeral in (8) developes a u^3 term. While I won't quote it specifically, I believe in Fermi statistics one gets a square term. At least from my understanding, this is some kind of a dimension identifier related to momentum. So my first question boils down to what exactly does the k^s represent in the general Bose Einstein distribution I quoted earlier. Specifically, what does k and s represent (some sort of degeneracy maybe?). Secondly, if we were to make s a complex number of some form a+bi, would this make any physical sense? Thank you very much for your time. I eagerly wait for your answer! | |
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Subject:
Re: Bose Einstein Statistics
From: galphath-ga on 02 Oct 2005 20:12 PDT |
K term on the first equations corresponds to the energy of the sistem, this gamma isnīt the gamma distribution function, is the partition function of energy on cannonical ensemble |
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Re: Bose Einstein Statistics
From: ivanyakov-ga on 03 Oct 2005 14:52 PDT |
That makes sense from what i've seen in some books, but I still can't figure out what "s" relates to. Perhaps it has something to do with spin? I understand that density of states generally is proportional to a power distribution such as this k^s, but I guess i'm hoping s isn't experimentally determined and can be derived for any particle (such as a boson) |
Subject:
Re: Bose Einstein Statistics
From: jon_b-ga on 19 Oct 2005 00:02 PDT |
I think the problem is that this is a math page, not a physics page. While their equation is probably correct with some definition of k,s,and mu, those values don't really have physical significance. It is just convienent for explicitly solving in terms of the equations they have listed! The more commonly seen formula can be found over on scienceworld's B-E page: http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Bose-EinsteinDistribution.html Or, if you prefer the probability functions (integrated, & normalized), see hyperphysics http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/disfcn.html#c1. You may want to try a good thermal physics book like Kitell, which should have the derivations of all that good stuff. |
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