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Fuel Rods, Spent...?
Category: Science > Physics Asked by: singularity360cubed-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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30 Sep 2005 10:51 PDT
Expires: 30 Oct 2005 09:51 PST Question ID: 574689 |
How spent are they...? In an effort to turn swards into plow shares, if the percentage is anything, reprocessing would make sense, on two fronts, purifying the waist as well as recapturing U-238 for fuel rod use. Who knows, maybe a lower power reactor would make sense these days, using the pure waist atoms... Extracting U-238 from ore seems to me to be more expensive as reprocessing. Can't the spent pellets be added in the ore process purification somewhere...? |
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Re: Fuel Rods, Spent...?
From: bozo99-ga on 30 Sep 2005 19:56 PDT |
It depends. On the type of fuel for instance and the amount it is used. The terms "burnup", "rating", "dwell time", "depleted", and "reactivity" may be useful in searches for a description of spent fuel. U238 is not really what you want. That's the abundant U isotope. You might want to recover what U235 is still present (that's the kind that's increased by enrichment in most reactor fuel). In a thriving fuel cycle market (but not today's conditions) you'd want to extract the Pu (converted from U238) for use in fuel too. Fast breeder reactors are currently so out of fashion there's been work done on "burner" reactors that _consume_ Pu and other stuff - it being rated as having no value at present. That's just one of several reasons the nuclear power industry is not as profitable as was expected in the 1950s. To get a reactor working you need a suitable combination of conditions involving the fuel size, shape and composition. You can't just settle for a lower-power reactor using U238 any more than you can settle for a low-power steam engine burning ash. Your ash may have unburnt material still in it but if it's not enough to keep up the temperature and ignite its neighbour your fire will just fizzle out. A reactor is a bit like that - a "self-sustaining chain reaction" is needed. Reprocessing is in any case compulsory for fuel types that are not durable when spent. |
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Re: Fuel Rods, Spent...?
From: czarbmh-ga on 06 Nov 2005 19:52 PST |
Something to keep in mind: The US Government, probably in response to the Three-Mile Island incident (but don't quote me on that since I wasn't born yet), reasoned under Jimmy Carter, that the US Government is the only entity in the US that can own High-grade, and mid-grade special nuclear material-- that is, materials greater than about 20 percent enrichment. I understand there are probably limited quatities that organizations can own in this higly enriched state (probably less than a few grams, but check www.nrc.gov for the requirements for liscensure in these cases if you're interested). So, the US government doesn't let just anyone use this highly enriched fuel, or even own it. A byproduct of a heavy water reactor, that is a reactor that burns mixed-oxide fuels, is production of plutonium in the process of producing these fuels. Sometimes, plutonium is formed when a few neutrons add to uranium without fission. According to Jimmy, only the US government can own this, so really no one can make these reactors. Thank your pal Jimmy for these laws-- France, the UK, et cetera-- have been using mixed oxide reactors for years, with no problems. Just my comments about one bone head ex-Navy Nuke, from another bonehead ex-Navy Nuke. |
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Re: Fuel Rods, Spent...?
From: singularity360cubed-ga on 10 Nov 2005 17:15 PST |
Just wanted to restate the obvious. It would seem that reprocessing the spent material, should be much more cost effective. I guess I still don't see the problem DOE... Then we would have true waist... I guess i'm a bode head too, never had the Navy pleasure though... |
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