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Subject:
thawing a turkey
Category: Family and Home > Food and Cooking Asked by: chriscanuck-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
08 Oct 2005 22:33 PDT
Expires: 07 Nov 2005 21:33 PST Question ID: 578104 |
I'm preparing to cook my first turkey (13 lbs). I put the frozen turkey (still in it's original packaging) on the kitchen counter at room temperature to thaw for most of the day. I was then told that the proper way to thaw the turkey was to place it in the refridgerator or to submerge it in cold water and that thawing at room temperature could promote bacterial growth. So - the turkey is now in the fridge. My question: after spending the day thawing at room temperature, will the turkey still be okay to eat? |
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From: brianhoward-ga on 08 Oct 2005 22:41 PDT |
We've unthawed ours on the counter for years, and we're all still living! ;) It will still be safe, in fact, bacteria still can grow inside your fridge or cold water, but just not as rapidly. Cooking kills most if not all bacteria. Here is a chart: http://www.healthandwelfare.idaho.gov/_Rainbow/Documents/health/hSECTION%205.htm |
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Re: thawing a turkey
From: jago8-ga on 09 Oct 2005 06:17 PDT |
Is unthawing the same as freezing? ;-) Seriously, I would certainly still eat it. Specially as you still had it wrapped. Maybe if it was unwrapped, the room was hot and full of flies, and the dog had pulled ti down onto the floor, my thoughts would have been different....... |
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Re: thawing a turkey
From: chromedome-ga on 09 Oct 2005 09:18 PDT |
Hi, Chris...and Happy Thanksgiving from a fellow Canuck. As Brianhoward-ga pointed out, many people do thaw their turkeys at room temp and are none the worse for it. It's not the best or safest practice, but isn't necessarily going to make you sick. The pathogens (disease-bearing micro-organisms) present in foods are most active and able to reproduce at temperatures between 40F and 140F (4C-60C). Above and below those temperatures, they do not reproduce well; and after extended freezing or cooking to a suitable temperature (see the chart already cited) they will be killed. Some pathogens, unfortunately, produce toxins which are *not* destroyed at those temperatures, which is why botulism is such a nasty thing. With your turkey, though, that's not an issue. Defrosting in your refrigerator, then, keeps the bird at something close to a safe temperature throughout the whole process. Defrosting a still-sealed bird in water (keep the water circulating the whole time, by leaving a small trickle running into your sink/tub/pot) is faster, and in many cases can be accomplished within the four-hour guideline, but it's still a bit of a cheat. The rule we observe in the professional kitchen is to restrict foods to four hours or less in that "danger zone" of temperatures. Restaurants maintain their foods at temperatures above 140F or cool them rapidly to below 40F, and these temperatures are checked rigorously by health inspectors in the course of going about their business. In this particular instance, given the mass of a turkey, the middle of the bird would still have been well frozen, and helped the rest of the bird stay cool. Furthermore salmonella, your most likely contaminant, is confined to the surfaces of the bird. So, if you want to improve your safety margin before cooking the bird, wash it thoroughly inside and out with well-salted water before proceeding. Salt has antibacterial properties, and will reduce the population of naturally-occurring pathogens on your bird. In fact, if you have a suitably-sized pot or tub, you may wish to leave the turkey in the brine for a couple of hours before roasting it; a technique which will leave it more flavourful and juicy. Oh, and one last thing...traditional or not, don't cook the stuffing inside the turkey. Put in some onions or garlic, or a couple sprigs of herbs, if you wish to flavour the turkey itself; and cook the dressing on the side in a loaf pan or cake pan (you can ladle drippings over it, to get the flavour). Baking the stuffing in the bird guarantees that, by the time the stuffing has reached a food-safe temperature, the bird will be sadly overcooked and dry. Good luck, and enjoy your turkey, -Chromedome (restaurant cook) |
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Re: thawing a turkey
From: londonkenton-ga on 26 Oct 2005 14:51 PDT |
4 hours is a good rule for a maximum time in the 05oc-63oc danger zone Bacteria doubles in size every 20 minutes and is only at a safe level before the 4hr mark. Take into acount thawing time and also the cooking time between cold and cooked. It is not safe to eat your turkey because as the turkey as a whole will still be frozen inside after most of the day defrosting on the counter you have to think about each part of the turkey. Say for instance one section of skin, it defrosted first and has been defrosted at room temperature all day. This part will have had bacteria doubling every 20 minutes all day. you will then slowly warm it in an oven where it will take a cosiderable amount of time to reach the 70oc bacteria kill temp. discard it to be safe and defrost in a controlled temp lower than 50c, fridge or cold water. People are usually ok because the cooking process kills most of the bacteria but only most. hope it helps |
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