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Subject: Transporting wine (export) from the United States to China (PRC)
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: alberrosidus-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 12 Oct 2005 12:02 PDT
Expires: 11 Nov 2005 11:02 PST
Question ID: 579418
A 20-year-old friend of mine (US citizen) will be going to China (PRC)
in the next couple of days (departing from LAX, stopping in tokyo [NRT
I guess], and arriving at PEK). He is travelling as a student and will
stay for a couple of months. Is it legal for him to bring a single
gift bottle of wine with him and are there any special procedures
required of him? I remember when I was 15 I brought a gift bottle of
wine to costa rica with me (pre 9/11) without incident. I also managed
to bring back 24 rum and cokes to the states from costa rica when I
was 16 without incident (also pre 9/11). <a
href="http://travel.howstuffworks.com/us-customs-service3.htm">Information</a>
for bringing alcohol to the States, though, all states that you have
to be 21 to bring even 1 liter of wine into the States with you, so
maybe there is some similar policy for transporting alcohol out of the
country. I know for certain that it is legal for him to possess and
consume the wine in China, so I don't expect problems on that end. He
really doesn't want an MIP (minor in possession), so he's got to be
sure it is legal, even if
he could probably get away with it.

Once again, is it legal for a 20-year-old, US citizen to take a gift
bottle of wine with him from Los Angeles, California to Beijing,
China?
Answer  
Subject: Re: Transporting wine (export) from the United States to China (PRC)
Answered By: denco-ga on 12 Oct 2005 12:49 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Howdy alberrosidus-ga,

Your friend would indeed be guilty of being a minor in possession of
alcohol.

From the California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC)
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page.
http://www.abc.ca.gov/questions/enforcement_faq.html

"Q. 70. With regard to purchase, consumption or possession of alcoholic
beverages, what is the age of majority?

A. The age of majority for these purposes is 21 years of age. (Section
22 of Article XX, California Constitution)"

The California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control "Teen Corner"
page discusses the possible penalties he could face if caught.
http://www.abc.ca.gov/teencorner.html

"IF YOU ARE CAUGHT IN POSSESSION OF ALCOHOL the penalty is a $250 fine
and 24-32 hours of community service, PLUS...a one year suspension of
your driver license. If you don't yet have one, you'll have to wait an
extra year to get one."

If you need any clarification, please feel free to ask.


Search strategy:

Google search on: California possession alcohol site:.ca.gov
://www.google.com/search?q=California+possession+alcohol+site:.ca.gov

Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher

Request for Answer Clarification by alberrosidus-ga on 12 Oct 2005 20:28 PDT
I know that being a minor in possession means possessing alcohol and
being under 21 years of age, at least in CA.

The question was whether or not it would count if one were
transporting a gift bottle of wine (for a host family in China). Since
it is a gift, it will be sealed, in a box, and wrapped. If he were
caught, it would only be at an airport where he clearly would not be
able to consume it. Thus the only possible place of consumption would
be outside of the country, where CA laws clearly do not apply. I know
this sounds like I'm splitting hairs here, but it seems to me like
there have to be laws differentiating between an 18 year old kid with
some open 40s (40 oz. bottle of malt liquor) walking along hollywood
blvd. and a 20 year old guy with a sealed, gift wrapped bottle of
shiraz trying to take the bottle out of the country. Does this mean
that technically it would have been illegal for me to give my father a
bottle of wine as a gift when I was under 21? (rhetorical, but answer
if you feel like it).

thanks in advance.

Clarification of Answer by denco-ga on 12 Oct 2005 22:05 PDT
Howdy alberrosidus-ga,

A reminder of the "Important Disclaimer: Answers and comments provided on
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for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal,
investment, accounting, or other professional advice."

Possession is possession, regardless of appearances.  Here is a possible
scenario: your friend goes to LAX, is in security, they (likely will) order
him to open the box, there is the wine, they wave over a LAPD officer, and
as California has a zero tolerance policy for this, they take him away.

You state in your question: "He really doesn't want an MIP (minor in
possession), so he's got to be sure it is legal, even if he could probably
get away with it."

Is the scenario I present a likely one?  Depends on the people on duty
that day, but I have seen worse done with lots less, such as someone with
fingernail clippers trying to board a flight.

I know you are saying it is doubtful that someone would use the method
described to get an underaged drink, but if the gift was from the friend's
parents to the host family in China, what is to stop the friend (He is very
nervous about flying!) from going ahead and opening and (illegally) drinking
the wine before or after passing through security.  Nothing, and hence that
is why possession is illegal.

As to the scenario you outline, yes, it would be illegal for you to give
your father a bottle of wine if you were under 21, because that assumes
you were in possession of it prior to giving it to him.  It would also be
illegal for you to buy it, or for someone to buy it for you.

California law is very clear on this subject.  Here it is presented on the
"FindLaw" web site.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cacodes/bpc/25657-25667.html

"25662.  (a) Any person under the age of 21 years who has any
alcoholic beverage in his or her possession on any street or highway
or in any public place or in any place open to the public is guilty
of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine of two hundred fifty
dollars ($250) or the person shall be required to perform not less
than 24 hours or more than 32 hours of community service during hours
when the person is not employed or is not attending school."

Note that it doesn't say "except fancy wrapped bottles of wine" above.

He would have a way out, if (but this is not the situation as such in
your question) the gift was, for instance, from your friend's parent(s)
to the host family, as the statute continues.

"This section does not apply to possession by a person under the age
of 21 years making a delivery of an alcoholic beverage in pursuance
of the order of his or her parent, responsible adult relative, or any
other adult designated by the parent or legal guardian, or in pursuance
of his or her employment.  That person shall have a complete defense if
he or she was following, in a timely manner, the reasonable instructions
of his or her parent, legal guardian, responsible adult relative, or adult
designee relating to disposition of the alcoholic beverage."

In that case, your friend, if he had a "note from his parents" that the
above was the case, might be in the clear.

Keep in mind that the above appears to be in contradiction with an earlier
portion of the statute.

"25658.  (a) Except as otherwise provided in subdivision (c), every
person who sells, furnishes, gives, or causes to be sold, furnished,
or given away, any alcoholic beverage to any person under the age of
21 years is guilty of a misdemeanor."

So, if one strictly interprets the law, your friend, if instructed by his
father to take the wine to the host family, would be in the clear, but
the father could be charged with a misdemeanor.

In the scenario that you presnted for yourself, if your mother got the
wine as a gift for your father on your behalf, then again, you would
appear to be in the clear, but your mother might be guilty of a crime.

Once outside of California, your friend should be fine, at least according
to this "Minimum Legal Ages for Alcohol Purchase or Consumption Around the
World" chart.
http://www.geocities.jp/m_kato_clinic/mini-age-alcohol-eng-1.html

"...
China -- No MDA [Minimum Legal Age]
...
Japan ... 20 [Minimum Legal Age]
..."

There does not appear to be anything that prevents one bottle of your
average wine (which assumes an alcoholic content of less than 24%) to
be carried onboard the flight from LAX to NRT, but if it is a China
airline, they might require the bottle to be in the checked luggage and
not in the carry-on luggage.

All in all, if the wine were placed in your friend's checked luggage,
with a note from a parent, he should be in the clear all around.

Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher
alberrosidus-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
Thanks much for the timely response and clarification. My friend is
leaving in a couple of days and I'm sure his host family would really
appreciate the wine. Nice work.

Comments  
Subject: Re: Transporting wine (export) from the United States to China (PRC)
From: denco-ga on 13 Oct 2005 10:17 PDT
 
Thanks for the kind comment and 5 star rating, alberrosidus-ga.

Your friend will want to wrap the gift (wine is an excellent choice) in red
(luck), pink (happiness/prosperity), or yellow (happiness/prosperity), while
avoiding white or black wrapping.

He should not be surprised if the host family appears to reject the gift at
first, as this shows humility on the part of the recipient.

Polite insistance will make this go smoothly.

Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher

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