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Government support of evolution.
Category: Reference, Education and News > Education Asked by: patmarcum-ga List Price: $25.00 |
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16 Oct 2005 12:15 PDT
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Evolution ? how did it become such an industry that it receives government monies and holds an official place in institutions such as state parks, zoos, museums, etc? How did it officially become a part of textbooks approved by the government to use in public schools? Was there a law which was passed giving it some kind of special status? I know about the Butler act of 1925 that opposed the use of taxpayer dollars for the teaching of evolution. When, where and how did it become so much the converse in our land? Thanks. |
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Re: Government support of evolution.
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 19 Oct 2005 08:31 PDT Rated: |
Dear patmarcum-ga; Thank you for allowing me to answer your interesting question. American courts have tried Darwin?s theory of evolution no less than 10 times, including a trial in Pennsylvania as recently as September 2005. This year alone, at least 17 bills challenging evolution's place in the public school curriculum have been considered in 13 different states. In 1968, in Epperson v. Arkansas (1968), the U.S. Supreme Court overturned an Arkansas state law banning the teaching of evolution. And in 1987, in Edwards v. Aguillard (1987), it ruled against balancing evolution lessons by teaching creationism. There have, of course, been many other similar cases. Here are some of those historical cases just to name a few: Smith v. Mississippi (1969-70) Willoughby v. National Science Foundation (1974) Crowley v. Smithsonian Institution (1974) Steele v. Tennessee (1974) Daniel v. Tennessee (1975) Hendren v. Campbell (1977) Segraves v. State of California (1981) McClean v. Arkansas Board of Education (1982) Webster v. New Lenox School District (1990) Peloza v. Capistrano School District (1994) Freiler v. Tangipahoa Parish Board of Education (1997) LeVake v. Independent School District 656 (2001) Selman v. Cobb County School District (2005) LIVE SCIENCE ?Anti-evolution Attacks on the Rise? http://www.livescience.com/othernews/ap_050926_dover_update.html Over the years it seems that the impact of intellectual influence has been, in large part, one of the leading factors in the government?s acceptance of evolution as a viable educational theory as opposed to creationism (or intelligent design). This, of course, does not take into account the liberal views of the courts trying such cases since there have clearly been some liberal justices in the past who have issued opinions in these matters. LIVE SCIENCE ?Nobel Prize Winners Speak Up to Support Evolution? http://www.livescience.com/othernews/_ap_050916_id_opponents.html So you see the debate continues even to this day and it is no less hotly debated that it ever was. Historically the United States has had a long and complex history when it comes to evolution (specifically where it pertains to ?anti? evolution theories). The debated subject dates back at least as early as 1924 when the matter came under scrutiny by the California Board of Education. There seems to have been somewhat of a hiatus in interest from both proponents and opposition that spanned 1926 to 1963 (perhaps due to our distraction from the great depression and wars and other more pressing delimmas) when the subject one again gained some momentum, catching the attention of retrospective and introspecitve intellectuals of the 1960's. ANTI-EVOLUTION AND THE LAW http://www.antievolution.org/topics/law/ The issue of how and when the government adopted evolution as the ?official? theory is not altogether cut-and-dried. To begin with, the government hasn?t necessarily adopted this view as the official government position. There has, in fact, been some legislation to preserve the views of anti-evolution or non-evolution teachings. Interestingly the legislation doesn?t some in the way of providing for equal time, as one would a political issue, rather the intent of the legislation is to insure a disclaimer that where such theories are taught that it is also to be made known that no "factual scientific evidence" supports the theory entirely (whether the theory is evolution, creationism or intelligent design). ?House Bill 179, introduced in the Georgia House of Representatives on January 27, 2005, would require "Whenever any theory of the origin of human beings or other living things is included in a course of study offered by a local unit of administration, factual scientific evidence supporting or consistent with evolution theory and factual scientific evidence inconsistent with or not supporting the theory shall be included in the course of study." NSCE RESOURCES http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/news/2005/GA/161_new_antievolution_legislation_1_28_2005.asp While at present the Supreme Court ?appears? to be supporting evolution as the official US government theory, it is in fact merely defending prior decisions on the matter that were decided over the years on their own merit. It does appear on its face that the court is stubbornly holding to evolution as the most likely scientific theory, but where church and state issues are concerned, there are limitations to how the court may recognize any particular creationism or intelligent design concept and make that the preferred (and legal) theory. As it stands evolution has historically been viewed as a rather ambiguously interpreted concept that can be legally taught because it is neither religious nor political. Because there are (in some people?s view) some remotely plausible evidence to support the theory of evolution, it?s been taught as a rather non-invasive ?take-it-or-leave-it? approach. This has, to some extent satisfied the proponents of evolution and leaves the door open to others to walk away with the right to believe or disbelieve the theory as they see fit for themselves and their children. After all, whether evolution is factual or not, neither position is apparently a life-altering revelation in the government?s presumed official view (though the religious right would obviously contend that such a revelation would indeed be life-altering if creationism were proven true). Creationists will continue to oppose it (presumably) because it implies that their religious contentions are invalid, which in turn threatens their core beliefs. Evolutionists will continue to oppose it (presumably) because they have the right to embrace any scientific theory they so desire outside of an imposed religious theory. And finally, intelligent design proponents will continue to leave the issue open for the possibility that some less understood entity or action was responsible because they simply cannot, or will not, accept as fact any other view. Where the government is concerned each of these positions is equally within a person?s right to believe, but evolution is the lesser invasive of all (as evidenced by historical Supreme Court decisions). In summary it seems that the government?s safest position is to defend, not evolution itself, but the EXISTING DECISIONS of the Supreme Court on evolution matters (in other words, not as the official theory but as the most legally acceptable of all theories) until or if such time that the court rules otherwise. In short, it?s not that the government ever officially recognized evolution, but that it can, based on non-religious scientific speculation, support (financially) and further enable (in parks, schools, museums, etc.) a theory that is neither religious (creationism) nor contrary to modern, scientific school of thought (intelligent design) and thereby not prohibited by law. I hope you find that my answer exceeds your expectations. If you have any questions about my research please post a clarification request prior to rating the answer. Otherwise I welcome your rating and your final comments and I look forward to working with you again in the near future. Thank you for bringing your question to us. Best regards; Tutuzdad-ga ? Google Answers Researcher INFORMATION SOURCES Defined above SEARCH STRATEGY SEARCH ENGINE USED: Google ://www.google.com SEARCH TERMS USED: EVOLUTION THEORY CREATIONISM INTELLIGENT DESIGN LEGISLATION HISTORY SUPREME COURT GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL POSITION | |
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Re: Government support of evolution.
From: gregg65-ga on 16 Oct 2005 13:12 PDT |
It's such a gradual thing...you'd probably do best with a book that talks about the aftermath of the Scopes trial. In general teaching evolution was simply regarded as teaching new scientific knowledge the same as teaching chemistry or nuclear theory. Many scientists and theologians consider evolutionary theory and the Bible completely compatible. |
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Re: Government support of evolution.
From: dprk007-ga on 16 Oct 2005 14:28 PDT |
dear patmarcum-ga Evolution is not the only thing taught in textbooks and public schools. The French Revolution is taught in schools. How do you know that the French Revolution happened ? Perhaps it is simply a myth that has been perpetuated over the years? So why should tax payers pay for the teaching of the French Revolution? Or the theory of Relativity ? Some people question the validity of the theory of relativity. But it is taught in the Physics departments of just about every legitimate university in the world. Do you think we should stop the funding for the teaching of relativity just because some people believe the theory to be wrong? Or some people believe that 12 men never visited the moon. Should we stop funding for any program that teaches the history of the American Space program just because some people choose not to believe it? Or Some people choose to believe that the Earth is flat. Do we stop funding for the teaching of basic Astronomy that says the earth goes round the moon? Or perhaps gave equal teaching time to the teaching of the "Flat Earth Theory". Or perhaps World war 2 is a myth. Taxpayers pay loads of commerating this event (A MUCH MUCH larger industry than Evolution when it comes to commemorating it) Evolution is a perfectly respected theory which has been backed up by many years of verifiable research. It has every right to be taught in schools along with any other theories that have been established over a period of time. I would suggest if you do not like your tax dollars been taught on Evolution, then you spend the time coming up with an alternate theory which can be verified by legitimate reserch/observation. Oh and BTW I am not talking about ID which IS NOT a theory but just an unfair attempt to rubbish the theory of Evolution. Regards DPRK007 |
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Re: Government support of evolution.
From: nelson-ga on 16 Oct 2005 17:01 PDT |
Because as an advanced nation, we want our citizens to learn science. It is time to put the old myths away. |
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Re: Government support of evolution.
From: markvmd-ga on 17 Oct 2005 00:21 PDT |
I suspect that ID believers did poorly in science class and are now trying to vent their frustrations. Similarly, creationists want to have the "it's a mystery" box to check rather than learn the complexities of this branch of science. I'd love to see this extrapolated to other subjects, such as grammar and math. When asked to spell "chrysanthemum" it would be nice to reply, "It's a mystery!" Just because something is complicated doesn't mean it can't be random. Haven't you ever had to unjumble Christmas lights? Evolution holds the position it has because it is the logical and provable explanation of circumstances. |
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Re: Government support of evolution.
From: pugwashjw-ga on 17 Oct 2005 01:36 PDT |
It is still the " THEORY" of evolution. Consider: The eye cannot 'evolve' . It must be fully complete to even work. And just about every living thing has eyes. And they all work the same. Points to a very good engineer. A creator. |
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Re: Government support of evolution.
From: myoarin-ga on 17 Oct 2005 18:06 PDT |
The question can be reversed: why should the government support a theory based in a religion, especially when the Constitution says it must not, and various court cases have prohibited other professions of religious beliefs in schools? The theory of evolution stands up to the present scientific tests. If the only refutation of it is a religious belief - one that is NOT held by everyone who is a Christian or Jew - teaching ID in state schools is the same as have kids start the day by saying the Lord's Prayer in class. |
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Re: Government support of evolution.
From: markvmd-ga on 17 Oct 2005 20:42 PDT |
It is statements like some found here that point up the depressing level of science education in our country. Go talk to a third-grade general science teacher and have him or her explain about the development of eyes and the differing types of light-sensing organs there are out there. They sure aren't all the same (look at an annelid and an eagle). Once that is done, speak to a fourth grade math teacher about the definition of a theory. Maybe fifth grade? I can't recall when we got into theories. |
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Re: Government support of evolution.
From: gothicjon-ga on 18 Oct 2005 09:50 PDT |
It is amusing that people raise their eyes at evolution, which is at least backed by science. What backs creationism? What facts? Some say that becuase the ye or the universe is so complex, that it must have been spontaneously reated. well, if that logic is true, then God cannot exist, because a god must be even more complex than his creation - so if the creation cannot exist without god, god cannot exist without being created by a more complex creator...where does it end? As for theories, relativity is a theory, too. A theory is a scientific statement that has evidence to back it. Religion is just what some people believe, no facts - just faith. In religion, all you need is faith. facts are irrelevant. That's why you can't use religion to explain science. Also, I believe the Scopes Trials gave teachers the right to teach evolution. Creationism is specific to which religion you're talking about, and has no proof beyond philosophical argument. I believe schools would benefit from a course on comparitive religion. that would teach tolerance and show how religion 'evolved'. If you believe the current New Testament is unadulterated, check out the Sinaticus Gospels - the first complete collection found around 300 AD. In it, Joseph is clearly named as the father of Jesus. In the Ceutaneous Gospels, the next complete set found 100 years later, the sentance is subtly altered to state that Mary was the mother of Jesus. Over time, the virgin birth story was further clarified. Also note that NONE of the great wrietrs in the time of Jesus ever mentioned him, while they did mention other contemporaries - none of which raised the dead and healed the sick - which I think would have caused quite a stir. Jesus isn't even metioned in print anywhere until more than a hundred years after his death. Also, if you dig back further, you wiull find many cultures who had a Jesus-like figure in their belief system. You will also find that the deification of a man was very common, as in the Egyption Pharoahs, Baylonian Kings, and Roman Emporers, to name a few. To anyone who bothers to study history, religion, and 'thevolution', it is obvious that religions are myths, nothing more. A necessity in a time when man knew little of his surroundings and was trying to make sense of his world. Then as now, the majority of people were ignorant. But they still needed answers. The supernatural and the occult - be it Mithraism, Gnosticism, Judaism, or Christianity - was simply a way to find peace through some sort of answer system. Kind of like how belief in the Tooth Fairy explains to children how money gets under their pillow. |
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Re: Government support of evolution.
From: xbrittanyx-ga on 18 Oct 2005 23:39 PDT |
Paraphrasing one of my literary heroes, H.L. Mencken, my last words on the gallows will be to condemn collectivism in all of its forms. In the continuing struggle between "individualism" and "collectivism," you will always find me in the company of the former. I recall a discussion I had with classmates back in high school, wherein I uttered what I then considered a cute phrase: "I distrust any form of organization from two-handed poker on up." In later years, I have modified the thrust of that comment, coming to the conclusion that we need one another?s cooperation if we are to live in a condition of liberty wherein each of us is free to pursue our individual "bliss" (to borrow from Joseph Campbell). What we have in common with one another, is a need to come to the defense of one another?s individuality, a truth now made evident by the police-state hurriedly being assembled by the Bush administration. In varying degrees, every political system is collectivist in nature, each being premised upon the centralization of state authority over the lives and property of individuals. Communism is only the more aggressive and far-reaching form of state socialism. But every political form is grounded in the belief that the state may rightfully preempt the decision-making authority of individuals. Most of us have been conditioned to confine the range of permissible thought about the nature and extent of political authority to an arbitrary continuum running from the "Left" to the "Right." The assumption underlying such thinking is that if you are dissatisfied with a "Leftist" (or "liberal") government?s policies, you can switch your preferences to "Rightist" (or "conservative") candidates. But such thinking clouds the fact, as noted by a friend of mine, that the "Left" and "Right" are but "two wings of the same bird of prey!" All political groups want power over others, a point noted in Ambrose Bierce?s The Devil?s Dictionary: "Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others." An awareness of this fact is found in the growing dissatisfaction of people with both major political parties, along with the sense that, no matter who they vote for, the government always gets elected! The alleged "polarization" of viewpoints along this political spectrum does not delude those whose interests are driven more by a desire for coercive power over others than by any deep-seated philosophic principles. That so many 1930s Marxists could so easily have become conservatives by the 1950s, while some "Leftist" radicals of the 1960s have become darlings of modern neoconservativism, illustrates the fungible nature of all political systems. It is an inner need to forcibly control the lives and property interests of others that motivates men and women of all political persuasions. Philosophic "principles" or "basic values" are no more to the politically ambitious than propaganda with which to create and solidify a base of power. Like commercial advertisers who declare "we do it all for you," politicians thrive on getting individuals to align themselves with their (and the state?s) interests. Have any of you bought into George Bush?s promises of "enduring freedom" ? words not even he can mutter without breaking into his used-car salesman?s grin? All political systems are dependent upon the generation of mass-minded thinking, to persuade each of us to lose our sense of individuality and responsibility in the collective herd. We condition our minds to accept identities for ourselves, to think of ourselves not as self-directed, self-responsible beings, but as members of various groups, whose interests are not only mutually exclusive, but antagonistic. Whether we identify ourselves by race, religion, nationality, lifestyle, ideology, economic interests, gender, geography, or any other category, we put ourselves into a state of conflict with others. Political systems then promise to protect us from "them," and most of us are too dull to recognize that our alleged "protectors" are the very ones who induced us to play the games that now threaten us! If you haven?t yet figured out that the events of 9/11 and their aftermath are but extensions of the decades-old politicogenic conflicts manufactured by political systems, then you have been watching too much cable television! Look at the consequences of losing our sense of individuality in collective herds. Events in your daily life should confirm to you that individuals are generally more decent, peaceful, cooperative, loving, and humane than are political collectives. It should be clear to you that all political systems depend upon a modus operandi that is completely contrary to what most of us experience with other individuals; methodologies that none of us would tolerate from friends, associates, or even strangers. Politics attracts and mobilizes the basest qualities of humanity: a penchant for coercion, intimidation, warfare, and deceit; a willingness to destroy others; and an obsession with forcibly controlling the lives of others. I once defined "government" as "a system of murder, rape, extortion, coercion, theft, intimidation, and terror, the absence of which, it is said, would lead to disorder." If you doubt this characterization then confront these hard facts: during the 20th century, governments managed to kill 200 million men, women, and children in wars, genocides, and other acts of formalized violence. During that same century, how many people were killed by individuals acting without political authority? The 20th century revealed to us how easily the "dark side" of our unconscious minds can be energized toward violent and destructive ends. Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, and American lynch mobs demonstrated how easy it is to manipulate herd-oriented people. It is the individual who is difficult to control. Just as we try to ignore the presence of a naked man at a social gathering, most of us tend to consciously repress the uncomfortable truths about the nature of collectivized systems. In the aftermath of September 11th, most of us have learned to recite the state?s catechism that these attacks had nothing to do with policies or programs of the American government, but were simply peevish acts carried out by men who envied our way of life! That these men came from a part of the world that has become an abattoir produced and directed by various political systems, influenced by a mix of Jewish, Islamic, and Christian doctrines, with costuming (and armaments) provided by the United States, seems not to have tweaked the consciousness of most. Still, there are inner voices within each of us that insist upon reality. Our emotions, intuitions, and dreams, are some of the more familiar ways in which our unconscious mind ? which, if nothing else, seems to have our survival as its central concern ? endeavors to communicate with our consciousness. I suspect that many of us become angry at the opinions of others that contradict our own, not because we know them to be false, but because we fear that they may be true. I will receive more hostile e-mails from this article than I would from one in which I developed the thesis that 2 + 2 = 5, or that the earth is, indeed, a flat monolith supported by a turtle. "Pay no attention to that man behind the screen," intoned the Wizard of Oz as Toto exposed to his friends the fraud that had been perpetrated upon them. Our obsession with collectivism ? whatever form it may take ? is destroying both the quality and the existence of human life. While we are social creatures, and need one another?s cooperation in order to survive, we are also individuals who require mutual respect for the inviolability of our respective interests. Only the individual is able to generate thoughts, to be creative, to reproduce, to sense pleasure, to love, and to have transcendent experiences. The fate of all humanity is in the hands of individuals. If mankind is to extricate itself from the destructiveness of collective systems, you and I must begin to question the collective thinking through which we participate in such madness. There will be no White House conferences, or legislative hearings, or Supreme Court opinions to help us, for these are only expressions of the problem we must overcome. In words attributed to Albert Einstein: "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." For the same reason that only you and I can protect ourselves from the attacks of others ? our delusions about police "protection" to the contrary notwithstanding ? only you and I can alter our personal consciousness. You and I can either choose to rethink our sense of "who we are" ? and, in so doing, withdraw our energies from collective identities ? or simply content ourselves to sit back, as most journalists seem inclined to do, and observe the collapse of society and the destruction of tens of millions of more lives. Such an undertaking will be neither as lonely nor futile as you might imagine. Consistent with our politicized conditioning, we have been trained to think that only by acting collectively, can we accomplish worthwhile ends. But events are demonstrating to us that collective thinking and behavior are destroying us. It is to you and me that attention must shift if we are to reverse our present course. Great music and other artistic expressions, inventions and discoveries, and other creative acts and ideas, have always come from individuals. The "butterfly effect" of which students of chaos speak informs us that localized acts can, through being reiterated back into a system, produce global consequences. Lest anyone doubt this, recall how nineteen men, armed only with cheap box-cutter knives, precipitated the events of 9/11 and their aftermath. If individuals can act for destructive ends, isn?t it possible for you and me to act, individually, for peaceful and constructive purposes? Your efforts will be energized by influences which, as collectivized people, we have long forgotten: [1] first, the demands of life, itself, will support you. Like flowing water, life has a way of insisting upon its own expression. Just as a dammed-up river will eventually surmount, circumvent, or overpower barriers to its free movement, life has a way of insisting upon conditions necessary to its vitality. Belief systems, no matter how staunchly defended, are ultimately no match for the forces of life, a truth made evident by the collapse of the Soviet Union. When biology confronts ideology, it is best to put your money on biology. [2] The second energizing source is one which, alone, will motivate your initial efforts, and which will then begin to intensify itself exponentially: the rediscovery of the human spirit. It is not to church doctrines or rituals that I refer, but to your experiencing an inner sense of connection with all of existence. Because such transcendent needs and experiences are unavoidably individual in nature, their expressions have a way of helping us withdraw from the lifeless and divisive collective systems that disconnect us from one another and keep us in our state of perpetual war. We are discovering from many sources, of which the Internet is but one example, that our world is becoming increasingly decentralized. Our needs for both individual liberty and social cooperation are moving us in directions in which our connectedness to others is finding expression more in horizontal rather than traditional vertical forms of organization. It is not "terrorism" that underlies the Bush administration?s war against the American people, but the institutional order?s reaction to the continuing collapse of centralized systems of authority. It is the desperate effort of established political interests to maintain their waning power that is driving efforts to expand police powers, incarcerate men and women without benefit of trials, deploy the military to control the American people, and to build concentration camps for "enemy combatants" who, in this day, have become us all. In order to accomplish such ends, the state must intensify its efforts to collectivize our thinking so that we will become a manageable herd. Its success in doing so can be partially measured by the flags flown from cars or homes by the "booboisie." But if we are to avoid the destructive and dehumanizing consequences of collectivist behavior, we must turn to that one person who has always been the source of the creative energies upon which mankind has relied: the individual. You will find him or her outside the citadel of the state, not attacking it, but quietly walking away from it.Paraphrasing one of my literary heroes, H.L. Mencken, my last words on the gallows will be to condemn collectivism in all of its forms. In the continuing struggle between "individualism" and "collectivism," you will always find me in the company of the former. I recall a discussion I had with classmates back in high school, wherein I uttered what I then considered a cute phrase: "I distrust any form of organization from two-handed poker on up." In later years, I have modified the thrust of that comment, coming to the conclusion that we need one another?s cooperation if we are to live in a condition of liberty wherein each of us is free to pursue our individual "bliss" (to borrow from Joseph Campbell). What we have in common with one another, is a need to come to the defense of one another?s individuality, a truth now made evident by the police-state hurriedly being assembled by the Bush administration. In varying degrees, every political system is collectivist in nature, each being premised upon the centralization of state authority over the lives and property of individuals. Communism is only the more aggressive and far-reaching form of state socialism. But every political form is grounded in the belief that the state may rightfully preempt the decision-making authority of individuals. Most of us have been conditioned to confine the range of permissible thought about the nature and extent of political authority to an arbitrary continuum running from the "Left" to the "Right." The assumption underlying such thinking is that if you are dissatisfied with a "Leftist" (or "liberal") government?s policies, you can switch your preferences to "Rightist" (or "conservative") candidates. But such thinking clouds the fact, as noted by a friend of mine, that the "Left" and "Right" are but "two wings of the same bird of prey!" All political groups want power over others, a point noted in Ambrose Bierce?s The Devil?s Dictionary: "Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others." An awareness of this fact is found in the growing dissatisfaction of people with both major political parties, along with the sense that, no matter who they vote for, the government always gets elected! The alleged "polarization" of viewpoints along this political spectrum does not delude those whose interests are driven more by a desire for coercive power over others than by any deep-seated philosophic principles. That so many 1930s Marxists could so easily have become conservatives by the 1950s, while some "Leftist" radicals of the 1960s have become darlings of modern neoconservativism, illustrates the fungible nature of all political systems. It is an inner need to forcibly control the lives and property interests of others that motivates men and women of all political persuasions. Philosophic "principles" or "basic values" are no more to the politically ambitious than propaganda with which to create and solidify a base of power. Like commercial advertisers who declare "we do it all for you," politicians thrive on getting individuals to align themselves with their (and the state?s) interests. Have any of you bought into George Bush?s promises of "enduring freedom" ? words not even he can mutter without breaking into his used-car salesman?s grin? All political systems are dependent upon the generation of mass-minded thinking, to persuade each of us to lose our sense of individuality and responsibility in the collective herd. We condition our minds to accept identities for ourselves, to think of ourselves not as self-directed, self-responsible beings, but as members of various groups, whose interests are not only mutually exclusive, but antagonistic. Whether we identify ourselves by race, religion, nationality, lifestyle, ideology, economic interests, gender, geography, or any other category, we put ourselves into a state of conflict with others. Political systems then promise to protect us from "them," and most of us are too dull to recognize that our alleged "protectors" are the very ones who induced us to play the games that now threaten us! If you haven?t yet figured out that the events of 9/11 and their aftermath are but extensions of the decades-old politicogenic conflicts manufactured by political systems, then you have been watching too much cable television! Look at the consequences of losing our sense of individuality in collective herds. Events in your daily life should confirm to you that individuals are generally more decent, peaceful, cooperative, loving, and humane than are political collectives. It should be clear to you that all political systems depend upon a modus operandi that is completely contrary to what most of us experience with other individuals; methodologies that none of us would tolerate from friends, associates, or even strangers. Politics attracts and mobilizes the basest qualities of humanity: a penchant for coercion, intimidation, warfare, and deceit; a willingness to destroy others; and an obsession with forcibly controlling the lives of others. I once defined "government" as "a system of murder, rape, extortion, coercion, theft, intimidation, and terror, the absence of which, it is said, would lead to disorder." If you doubt this characterization then confront these hard facts: during the 20th century, governments managed to kill 200 million men, women, and children in wars, genocides, and other acts of formalized violence. During that same century, how many people were killed by individuals acting without political authority? The 20th century revealed to us how easily the "dark side" of our unconscious minds can be energized toward violent and destructive ends. Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, and American lynch mobs demonstrated how easy it is to manipulate herd-oriented people. It is the individual who is difficult to control. Just as we try to ignore the presence of a naked man at a social gathering, most of us tend to consciously repress the uncomfortable truths about the nature of collectivized systems. In the aftermath of September 11th, most of us have learned to recite the state?s catechism that these attacks had nothing to do with policies or programs of the American government, but were simply peevish acts carried out by men who envied our way of life! That these men came from a part of the world that has become an abattoir produced and directed by various political systems, influenced by a mix of Jewish, Islamic, and Christian doctrines, with costuming (and armaments) provided by the United States, seems not to have tweaked the consciousness of most. Still, there are inner voices within each of us that insist upon reality. Our emotions, intuitions, and dreams, are some of the more familiar ways in which our unconscious mind ? which, if nothing else, seems to have our survival as its central concern ? endeavors to communicate with our consciousness. I suspect that many of us become angry at the opinions of others that contradict our own, not because we know them to be false, but because we fear that they may be true. I will receive more hostile e-mails from this article than I would from one in which I developed the thesis that 2 + 2 = 5, or that the earth is, indeed, a flat monolith supported by a turtle. "Pay no attention to that man behind the screen," intoned the Wizard of Oz as Toto exposed to his friends the fraud that had been perpetrated upon them. Our obsession with collectivism ? whatever form it may take ? is destroying both the quality and the existence of human life. While we are social creatures, and need one another?s cooperation in order to survive, we are also individuals who require mutual respect for the inviolability of our respective interests. Only the individual is able to generate thoughts, to be creative, to reproduce, to sense pleasure, to love, and to have transcendent experiences. The fate of all humanity is in the hands of individuals. If mankind is to extricate itself from the destructiveness of collective systems, you and I must begin to question the collective thinking through which we participate in such madness. There will be no White House conferences, or legislative hearings, or Supreme Court opinions to help us, for these are only expressions of the problem we must overcome. In words attributed to Albert Einstein: "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." For the same reason that only you and I can protect ourselves from the attacks of others ? our delusions about police "protection" to the contrary notwithstanding ? only you and I can alter our personal consciousness. You and I can either choose to rethink our sense of "who we are" ? and, in so doing, withdraw our energies from collective identities ? or simply content ourselves to sit back, as most journalists seem inclined to do, and observe the collapse of society and the destruction of tens of millions of more lives. Such an undertaking will be neither as lonely nor futile as you might imagine. Consistent with our politicized conditioning, we have been trained to think that only by acting collectively, can we accomplish worthwhile ends. But events are demonstrating to us that collective thinking and behavior are destroying us. It is to you and me that attention must shift if we are to reverse our present course. Great music and other artistic expressions, inventions and discoveries, and other creative acts and ideas, have always come from individuals. The "butterfly effect" of which students of chaos speak informs us that localized acts can, through being reiterated back into a system, produce global consequences. Lest anyone doubt this, recall how nineteen men, armed only with cheap box-cutter knives, precipitated the events of 9/11 and their aftermath. If individuals can act for destructive ends, isn?t it possible for you and me to act, individually, for peaceful and constructive purposes? Your efforts will be energized by influences which, as collectivized people, we have long forgotten: [1] first, the demands of life, itself, will support you. Like flowing water, life has a way of insisting upon its own expression. Just as a dammed-up river will eventually surmount, circumvent, or overpower barriers to its free movement, life has a way of insisting upon conditions necessary to its vitality. Belief systems, no matter how staunchly defended, are ultimately no match for the forces of life, a truth made evident by the collapse of the Soviet Union. When biology confronts ideology, it is best to put your money on biology. [2] The second energizing source is one which, alone, will motivate your initial efforts, and which will then begin to intensify itself exponentially: the rediscovery of the human spirit. It is not to church doctrines or rituals that I refer, but to your experiencing an inner sense of connection with all of existence. Because such transcendent needs and experiences are unavoidably individual in nature, their expressions have a way of helping us withdraw from the lifeless and divisive collective systems that disconnect us from one another and keep us in our state of perpetual war. We are discovering from many sources, of which the Internet is but one example, that our world is becoming increasingly decentralized. Our needs for both individual liberty and social cooperation are moving us in directions in which our connectedness to others is finding expression more in horizontal rather than traditional vertical forms of organization. It is not "terrorism" that underlies the Bush administration?s war against the American people, but the institutional order?s reaction to the continuing collapse of centralized systems of authority. It is the desperate effort of established political interests to maintain their waning power that is driving efforts to expand police powers, incarcerate men and women without benefit of trials, deploy the military to control the American people, and to build concentration camps for "enemy combatants" who, in this day, have become us all. In order to accomplish such ends, the state must intensify its efforts to collectivize our thinking so that we will become a manageable herd. Its success in doing so can be partially measured by the flags flown from cars or homes by the "booboisie." But if we are to avoid the destructive and dehumanizing consequences of collectivist behavior, we must turn to that one person who has always been the source of the creative energies upon which mankind has relied: the individual. You will find him or her outside the citadel of the state, not attacking it, but quietly walking away from it. |
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Re: Government support of evolution.
From: markvmd-ga on 19 Oct 2005 14:54 PDT |
xbrittanyx, will you marry me? |
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Re: Government support of evolution.
From: pinkfreud-ga on 19 Oct 2005 14:59 PDT |
markvmd-ga, Perhaps your proposal of marriage should be directed toward Butler Shaffer, who wrote the text that was posted by xbrittanyx without attribution. http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer25.html |
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Re: Government support of evolution.
From: myoarin-ga on 19 Oct 2005 15:59 PDT |
Pinky, how do you do it?! Don't tell me. ;) Markvmd, yes, check out Shaffer's site. There is a nice picture of him and an email address. And while I am here, let me tell you that one of my pet peeves is about people closing questions that have received a comment without acknowledging it. (another wink, ;) Cheers, Myoarin |
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Re: Government support of evolution.
From: markvmd-ga on 20 Oct 2005 08:59 PDT |
Whoa, Schaffer got a killer 'pee! I'm guessing a salt-and-pepper version costs extra. Hm, his bio says he's married. Figures. The good rugs are always taken. Hey, his snipe at "flags flown from cars..." D'you suppose he means my beloved Quakers flag? He's probably a Brown grad. Or worse, Stanford. Myoarin, I am sorry. I closed the question (and two others) without checking for comments. I know of no other way to express my appreciation for your input other than to say here (and elsewhere, if you like) that your comment was insightful and helpful, and that I am enjoying your answers and comments (among others, e.g., pink and tutuz) around the Google Answers milieu. |
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Not to sound like a broken record
From: dprk007-ga on 23 Dec 2005 07:11 PST |
Dear Patmarcum In addition to the Court rulings TUTUZDAD supplied above, you may be interested in the latest ruling from Judge John E Jone III. Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District), You can access the ruling at the following link http://blog.sciam.com/index.php?title=threw_the_book_at_em&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 >The proper application of both the endorsement and Lemon tests to the facts >of this case makes it abundantly clear that the Board's ID Policy violates >the Establishment Clause. In making this determination, we have addressed the >seminal question of whether ID is science. We have concluded that it is not, >and moreover that ID cannot uncouple itself from its creationist, and thus >religious, antecedents. >Both Defendants and many of the leading proponents of ID make a bedrock >assumption which is utterly false. Their presupposition is that evolutionary >theory is antithetical to a belief in the existence of a supreme being and to >religion in general. Repeatedly in this trial, Plaintiffs' scientific experts >testified that the theory of evolution represents good science, is >overwhelmingly accepted by the scientific community, and that it in no way >conflicts with, nor does it deny, the existence of a divine creator. >To be sure, Darwin's theory of evolution is imperfect. However, the fact that >a scientific theory cannot yet render an explanation on every point should >not be used as a pretext to thrust an untestable alternative hypothesis >grounded in religion into the science classroom or to misrepresent well->established scientific propositions. >The citizens of the Dover area were poorly served by the members of the Board >who voted for the ID Policy. It is ironic that several of these individuals, >who so staunchly and proudly touted their religious convictions in public, >would time and again lie to cover their tracks and disguise the real purpose >behind the ID Policy. >With that said, we do not question that many of the leading advocates of ID >have bona fide and deeply held beliefs which drive their scholarly endeavors. >Nor do we controvert that ID should continue to be studied, debated, and >discussed. As stated, our conclusion today is that it is unconstitutional to >teach ID as an alternative to evolution in a public school science classroom. >Those who disagree with our holding will likely mark it as the product of an >activist judge. If so, they will have erred as this is manifestly not an >activist Court. Rather, this case came to us as the result of the activism of >an ill-informed faction on a school board, aided by a national public >interest law firm eager to find a constitutional test case on ID, who in >combination drove the Board to adopt an imprudent and ultimately >unconstitutional policy. The breathtaking inanity of the Board's decision is >evident when considered against the factual backdrop which has now been fully >revealed through this trial. The students, parents, and teachers of the Dover >Area School District deserved better than to be dragged into this legal >maelstrom, with its resulting utter waste of monetary and personal resources. The judge has said far more eloquently than I ever could why evolution MUST be taught in schools if the United States is to remain a serious country in Science and Technology. Furthermore he has exposed proponents of ID for what they are i.e. a bunch of liars who will tout their religious convictions in public but will utterly mislead innocent Parents and Children that ID is a serious science. Yours Truly DPRK007 |
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Re: Government support of evolution.
From: richard-ga on 23 Dec 2005 10:12 PST |
Charles Robert Darwin Origin of Species VI. Difficulties of the Theory Organs of Extreme Perfection and Complication "TO suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree. When it was first said that the sun stood still and the world turned round, the common sense of mankind declared the doctrine false; but the old saying of Vox populi, vox Dei, as every philosopher knows, cannot be trusted in science. Reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a simple and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist, each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certainly the case; if further, the eye ever varies and the variations be inherited, as is likewise certainly the case and if such variations should be useful to any animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered as subversive of the theory. How a nerve comes to be sensitive to light, hardly concerns us more than how life itself originated; but I may remark that, as some of the lowest organisms, in which nerves cannot be detected, are capable of perceiving light, it does not seem impossible that certain sensitive elements in their sarcode should become aggregated and developed into nerves, endowed with this special sensibility. In searching for the gradations through which an organ in any species has been perfected, we ought to look exclusively to its lineal progenitors; but this is scarcely ever possible, and we are forced to look to other species and genera of the same group, that is to the collateral descendants from the same parent-form, in order to see what gradations are possible, and for the chance of some gradations having been transmitted in an unaltered or little altered condition. But the state of the same organ in distinct classes may incidentally throw light on the steps by which it has been perfected. The simplest organ which can be called an eye consists of an optic nerve, surrounded by pigment-cells, and covered by translucent skin, but without any lens or other refractive body. We may, however, according to M. Jourdain, descend even a step lower and find aggregates of pigment-cells, apparently serving as organs of vision, without any nerves, and resting merely on sarcodic tissue. Eyes of the above simple nature are not capable of distinct vision, and serve only to distinguish light from darkness. In certain star-fishes, small depressions in the layer of pigment which surrounds the nerve are filled, as described by the author just quoted, with transparent gelatinous matter, projecting with a convex surface, like the cornea in the higher animals. He suggests that this serves not to form an image, but only to concentrate the luminous rays and render their perception more easy. In this concentration of the rays we gain the first and by far the most important step towards the formation of a true, picture-forming eye; for we have only to place the naked extremity of the optic nerve, which in some of the lower animals lies deeply buried in the body, and in some near the surface, at the right distance from the concentrating apparatus, and an image will be formed on it. In the great class of the Articulata, we may start from an optic nerve simply coated with pigment, the latter sometimes forming a sort of pupil, but destitute of a lens or other optical contrivance. With insects it is now known that the numerous facets on the cornea of their great compound eyes form true lenses, and that the cones include curiously modified nervous filaments. But these organs in the Articulata are so much diversified that Müller formerly made three main classes with seven subdivisions, besides a fourth main class of aggregated simple eyes. When we reflect on these facts, here given much too briefly, with respect to the wide, diversified, and graduated range of structure in the eyes of the lower animals; and when we bear in mind how small the number of all living forms must be in comparison with those which have become extinct, the difficulty ceases to be very great in believing that natural selection may have converted the simple apparatus of an optic nerve, coated with pigment and invested by transparent membrane, into an optical instrument as perfect as is possessed by any member of the articulate class. He who will go thus far, ought not to hesitate to go one step further, if he finds on finishing this volume that large bodies of facts, otherwise inexplicable, can be explained by the theory of modification through natural selection; he ought to admit that a structure even as perfect as an eagle?s eye might thus be formed, although in this case he does not know the transitional states. It has been objected that in order to modify the eye and still preserve it as a perfect instrument, many changes would have to be effected simultaneously, which, it is assumed, could not be done through natural selection; but as I have attempted to show in my work on the variation of domestic animals, it is not necessary to suppose that the modifications were all simultaneous, if they were extremely slight and gradual. Different kinds of modification would, also, serve for the same general purpose: as Mr. Wallace has remarked, ?if a lens has too short or too long a focus, it may be amended either by an alteration of curvature, or an alteration of density; if the curvature be irregular, and the rays do not converge to a point, then any increased regularity of curvature will be an improvement. So the contraction of the iris and the muscular movements of the eye are neither of them essential to vision, but only improvements which might have been added and perfected at any stage of the construction of the instrument.? Within the highest division of the animal kingdom, namely, the Vertebrata, we can start from an eye so simple, that it consists, as in the lancelet, of a little sack of transparent skin, furnished with a nerve and lined with pigment, but destitute of any other apparatus. In fishes and reptiles, as Owen has remarked, ?the range of gradations of dioptric structures is very great.? It is a significant fact that even in man, according to the high authority of Virchow, the beautiful crystalline lens is formed in the embryo by an accumulation of epidermic cells, lying in a sack-like fold of the skin; and the vitreous body is formed from embryonic sub-cutaneous tissue. To arrive, however, at a just conclusion regarding the formation of the eye, with all its marvellous yet not absolutely perfect characters, it is indispensable that the reason should conquer the imagination; but I have felt the difficulty far too keenly to be surprised at others hesitating to extend the principle of natural selection to so startling a length." http://www.bartleby.com/11/6004.html |
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