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Log cutting jargon
Category: Science > Physics Asked by: meatscape-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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20 Oct 2005 09:37 PDT
Expires: 19 Nov 2005 08:37 PST Question ID: 582640 |
Is there a specific term of art used in the log cutting industry (or in engineering or phyics) to describe what a tree does as it falls over after being cut, or for that matter any body that is "tipping over"? To clarify, it seems like the base of the tree is in fact not falling at all, and even may move upwards a little bit. The top part of the tree does come crashing to the ground, but I was wondering if there are specific words perhaps only known in the industry to describe what is happening. Engineering folks may have a word for this process as well, thanks! |
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Re: Log cutting jargon
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 20 Oct 2005 16:42 PDT Rated: |
Dear meatscape-ga; Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. Since you are agreeable with the information I posted in the comments section as an answer, I am merely reposting the information here in order to officially close your question: The term you are looking for is a "toppling" tree. The term is used by the United States Geological Survey in its glossary of terms: "...toppling of trees..." USGS http://biology.usgs.gov/s+t/SNT/noframe/zy198.htm "TOPPLE: To totter and fall. To lean over as if about to fall." DICTIONARY.COM http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=topple I hope you find that my research exceeds your expectations. If you have any questions about my research please post a clarification request prior to rating the answer. Otherwise, I welcome your rating and your final comments and I look forward to working with you again in the near future. Thank you for bringing your question to us. OTHER INFORMATION SOURCES SEARCH STRATEGY SEARCH ENGINES USED: Google ://www.google.com SEARCH TERMS USED: Tipping Falling Leaning Logging Lumberjack Tree Physics Engineering Terminology Glossary Jargon Lingo |
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Re: Log cutting jargon
From: tutuzdad-ga on 20 Oct 2005 10:03 PDT |
In lumberjack jargon the act of cutting a tree down and dropping it to the ground is called ?felling?. How?s that? Tutuzdad-ga |
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Re: Log cutting jargon
From: meatscape-ga on 20 Oct 2005 10:33 PDT |
close, I'm more looking for the word to describe what happens to the tree AS it is felled, or to describe any physical object that is "tipping over". A scientific/engineering/lumberjack word for "tipping over" will do |
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Re: Log cutting jargon
From: tutuzdad-ga on 20 Oct 2005 11:24 PDT |
I found no such terminology in OSHA?s logging terminology glossary OSHA http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/logging/glossary/glossary.html Or in the industry standard safety manual: SAFETY STANDARDS FOR LOGGING OPERATIONS http://www.lni.wa.gov/wisha/rules/loggingoperations/default.htm http://www.lni.wa.gov/wisha/rules/loggingoperations/HTML/54-2.htm#WAC296-54-539 At the risk of sounding sarcastic (which is not my intent) it appears that a falling tree is simply called a ?falling tree?. From of common language approach the concept seems to be much simplier than scientific terminology. Having said that, perhaps the term you are looking for is a "toppling" tree. This term is used by the United States Geological Survey in it's glossary of terms: "...toppling of trees..." USGS http://biology.usgs.gov/s+t/SNT/noframe/zy198.htm "TOPPLE: To totter and fall. To lean over as if about to fall." DICTIONARY.COM http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=topple How's that? Tutuzdad-ga |
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Re: Log cutting jargon
From: rracecarr-ga on 20 Oct 2005 14:12 PDT |
how about kickback? check out the animation, halfway down the page. www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/logging/manual/felling/cuts/dangers/dangers.html |
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Re: Log cutting jargon
From: meatscape-ga on 20 Oct 2005 15:05 PDT |
Toppling works, that is probably as close as I will get. |
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Re: Log cutting jargon
From: qed100-ga on 21 Oct 2005 19:31 PDT |
Hello, You say in your original question, "...it seems like the base of the tree is in fact not falling at all, and even may move upwards a little bit." Is this *really* what you're interested in uderstanding? If so, then although there are words for the destabilising of standing objects (felling, toppling, etc.), they don't necessarily help yuu to undertstand your observation about the upwards motion of the tree-trunk near the cut point. What happens is that a trunk isn't cut clean through to topple the tree. It's cut almost through, but a bit is left intact, called for obvious reasons the "hinge", to constrain the falling tree's motion. When the hinge is thin enough there's no longer enough support to hold the tree upright and it tips over, rotating about the hinge. As long as the hinge still connects the stump with the toppling portion, it'll impose a centripetal force to keep the falling trunk's motion in a sweeping circular path about the hinge. The falling portion of the tree has its own mass center. In the act of falling the hinge quickly disintegrates and snaps apart. The mass center of the whole freely falling tree proceeds to fall along a path determined by its instantaneous velocity at the moment the hinge breaks. But it was also rotating at that moment, and the falling trunk is then free to rotate about its mass center, which is naturally well away from the hinge. The top of the tree is already rotating such that it is swinging towards the ground, so the other end necessarily swings upwards. |
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Re: Log cutting jargon
From: tutuzdad-ga on 21 Oct 2005 20:11 PDT |
In lumberjack jargon, a tree that hangs on at the base and ultimatly splits upward along the grain during falling in the manner you described is called a "Barber chair". However, this nickname doesn't actually describe the falling tree, only the end result (a partially cut stump with an unsevered portion that slightly resembles the back of a chair). tutuzdad-ga |
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