Hi again, citizena...
I was once again drawn to your question.
The resolution of this seems rather simple to me.
"On 12/21/12 the Sun will be at or on it's edge...[and]
Earth will be within the 'Dust Cloud' for approximately
3-5 months of it's 365 day orbit..."
For reference sake, I used some keywords to look up what
you might be citing *from*, and found the post on this
page at UnexplainedMysteries.com:
The fear seems to be that this cloud will somehow obscure
light coming from the sun to the earth. This is negated by
the simple facts:
The sun is 93,000,000 miles away from the earth.
A light year is ~5,000,865,696,000,000 miles
The Great Rift is dark band in the vicinity of the Summer
Triangle, which is "many thousands of light years away from
us", per this page on the BBC astronomy site:
So, how can something which is ~5,000,865,696,000,000 miles
away from our little solar system going to obscure the light
which is a mere 93,000,000 away from earth?
For a more scholarly discussion of the significance of 2012
and the astronomical alignments predicted by the Mayans, you
might enjoy this page by John Major Jenkins, on BeyondTheDoor:
"To start with, however, I use the exact center of the Milky
Way band that one finds on star charts, known as the "Galactic
Equator" (not to be confused with Galactic Center). Where the
Galactic Equator crosses the ecliptic in Sagittarius just
happens to be where the dark rift in the Milky Way begins.
This is a dark bifurcation in the Milky Way caused by
interstellar dust clouds. To observers on earth, it appears
as a dark road which begins near the ecliptic and stretches
along the Milky Way up towards Polaris."
"Here is a full view of the sky at noon on December 21st,
2012 A.D. The band of the Milky Way can be seen stretching
from the lower right to the upper left. The more or less
vertical dotted line indicates the Galactic Equator. The
planets can be seen tracing a roughly horizontal path
through the chart, indicating the ecliptic. The sun, quite
strikingly, is dead center in the Sacred Tree."
Images are provided:
Please do not rate this answer until you are satisfied that
the answer cannot be improved upon by way of a dialog
established through the "Request for Clarification" process.
Additional information may be found from an exploration of
the links resulting from the Google searches outlined below.
Searches done, via Google:
"Dust Cloud" in the Milky Way known as the "Great Rift"
"within the Dust Cloud" "great rift"
"sun is * light years away"
light year = miles
Request for Answer Clarification by
21 Oct 2005 15:48 PDT
I found at this website:
the following statement: "My research into the nature of this date
reveals that a rare celestial alignment culminates on it. Generally
speaking, what occurs is an alignment between the galactic and solar
planes. Specifically, the winter solstice sun will conjunct the Milky
Way, which is the edge of our spinning galaxy as viewed from earth.
Furthermore, the place where the sun meets the Milky Way is where the
"dark-rift" in the Milky Way is - a black ridge along the Milky Way
caused by interstellar dust clouds (See Diagram 1).
This is a feature of the Milky Way anyone can see on a clear
midsummer's night, away from the light pollution of industrial
society. At dawn on the winter solstice of A.D. 2012, the sun will be
right in this dark-rift, and the orientation is such that the Milky
Way rims the horizon at all points around. Thus, the Milky Way "sits"
on the earth, touching it at all points around, opening up the cosmic
This doesn't sound particulary catastrophic, thankfully. But I wish
to make two points: The source of my question that you cited is
absolutely correct-great research! I'll admit that that source doesn't
appear particularly credible. Two, I don't know if John Major Jenkins
is much of a scientist; he seems to mix mysticism, myth and some
science. He could be right in his observations, but I in a way don't
trust him as a scientific resource.
Be that as it may, you have presented a fairly good logical
explanation as to how the dust cloud issue is harmless. IF it is
possible to locate any science sources regarding the Dark Rift in that
year or the dust cloud issue, I will be more than happy to increase my
research payment for your time (just to have a little more
confirmation). But, if nothing shows up, please let me know; perhaps
there isn't much information available on this obscure topic. Thank
Clarification of Answer by
21 Oct 2005 19:58 PDT
That is an interesting article you found. What bothered me is
that it is unattributed, and a search for the quote preceeding
the missing diagram:
"a black ridge along the Milky Way caused by interstellar dust
clouds (See Diagram 1)"
...indicates that this article is duplicated on about 100 sites,
many of which include the diagram, such as on this page:
What's ironic is that the diagram is a much-duplicated image
created by John Major Jenkins using the EZCosmos program, which
is shown on the page of his which I cited, labelled "Chart 1".
Jenkins' full article, which was originally published in the
Dec-Jan '95 issue of Mountain Astrologer, is reproduced on
over 200 websites, as determined by a search for an exact
quote from the article:
"celestial convergence appears to parallel the accelerating pace"
In researching this further, I'm fully convinced that the
real issue is simply the *alignment* of the sun with this
dark rift at the edge of the Milky Way's "equator" but
this is a far cry from the sun or the earth or the solar
sytem "entering" the dark rift's dust cloud.
This alignment held great significance to the Mayans, who
exerted themselves in astonishing ways to predict it with
great accuracy, but the implications to both the Mayans
and the New-Agers, seem to be primarily astrological,
metaphysical and spiritual, rather than predominantly
physical in nature.
Some people, such as the author of the post which inspired
your question, seem unable to grasp the more abstract
implications of the convergence and are reduced to
interpreting the event literally, as a physical concern:
"...the sun will have traveled to the edge of a cosmic dust
cloud in the Milky Way..."
...instead of "the sun will align with the edge of the Milky
Way at the place where the Great Rift resides".