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quote defining "art"
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Books and Literature Asked by: ckb-ga List Price: $12.00 |
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26 Aug 2002 10:33 PDT
Expires: 25 Sep 2002 10:33 PDT Question ID: 58661 |
The quote is a few sentences. My paraphrase: There is no such thing as good art and bad art. Only art. Art achieves a specific effect (?). If the effect (?) is not achieved, it is not art. My recollection is that the author's first name is 'Dorothy,' but the Dorothy Parker quote, "There is good art and bad art," is certainly not it. Thanks! |
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Re: quote defining "art"
Answered By: pinkfreud-ga on 26 Aug 2002 13:09 PDT Rated: |
I believe this is the quote you seek: "What is good art? And what is bad art?" If the work leaves an effect on you, good or bad, it has done its job. Why even ask what is good and what is bad art? The only failed artwork is that which makes no impression at all on the viewer. This is an excerpt from an article entitled "Views on Art & Poetry," by Jean Flourney. Eclecticity Ezine http://eclecticityezine.com/archives/aug2000/jeanviews.html My Google search strategy: "good art" + "bad art" + "effect" ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22good+art%22+%22bad+art%22+effect Best regards, pinkfreud | |
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Re: quote defining "art"
Answered By: shananigans-ga on 12 Sep 2002 02:40 PDT |
Hi there ckb, Like the Researcher who previously attempted to answer your question, I have found no quote about the nature of art associated with anyone called Dorothy. However, I have found several quotes that define concisely what art is. Edgar Allan Poe once said that "were [he] called on to define, very briefly, the term Art, [he] should call it 'the reproduction of what the Senses perceive in Nature through the veil of the soul.' The mere imitation, however accurate, of what is in Nature, entitles no man to the sacred name of 'Artist.'" (http://quotes.prolix.nu/Art/) Aristotle though that "the aim of art is to represent not the outward appearance of things, but their inward significance". (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/q104151.html) Aristotle here creates a black-and-white rule of defining what is art - it is only those (pictures, sculptures, photographs etc.) that represent the inward significance of the subject; things that do not do this are simply not art. Paul Cezanne once said that "When [he] judge[s] art, I take my painting and put it next to a God made object like a tree or flower. If it clashes, it is not art". (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/q104151.html) Once again, there is no room here for art to be good or bad, it can only be art or 'not art'. All these quotes were found using the search terms ' quote art good bad "not art" ' Sites that may be of future use to you: "The Quote Cache" http://quotes.prolix.nu has quotes not just on art, but on every conceivable subject. It also links to a 'quote exchange', and claims to allow you to search 10,000 other quote sites in one go. "Brainy Quote" http://www.brainyquote.com also has a substantial number of art quotes, and many more on a variety of other subjects. It is much easier to navigate this site than it is to navigate 'The Quote Cache'. http://painting.about.com/cs/artistquotes/index.htm focusses specifically on quotes by and about artists. It's great if you need to find one about a specific element of art (e.g. the trials of becoming an artist) as the quotes are organised under such headings; there are also numerous quotes that are listed under their author's name. I understand that I have not found the 'Dorothy Quote', but hope that what I have found has been of some use to you. Best Wishes, shananigans-ga |
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Re: quote defining "art"
From: webadept-ga on 30 Aug 2002 10:19 PDT |
You put more into your rating area than you did in your question. On top of that you closed the thing instead of letting the research continue working on it! They are not mind readers. I would suggest that the next time you come here you use the Clarification area and let the researcher know to keep looking. Pink would have continued to find the answer for you, and she's such a good researcher in this area (you got the best one for this and let her go) that she would have found it. Oh well. |
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Re: quote defining "art"
From: eiffel-ga on 30 Aug 2002 12:20 PDT |
Nice piece of research, pinkfreud, tracking down that quote! ckb: even though the quote doesn't convey the meaning that you were seeking, couldn't you still use it with your students to introduce a more detailed discussion? |
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Re: quote defining "art"
From: pinkfreud-ga on 04 Sep 2002 16:44 PDT |
A colleague has suggested that possibly the quote could be from the artist Dorothea Tanning, who was married to Max Ernst. Not quite "Dorothy," but in the vicinity. |
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Re: quote defining "art"
From: seedy-ga on 10 Sep 2002 13:24 PDT |
Although I have not been able to confirm a direct quotation, I wanted to consider Dore Ashton as the possible source of the quotation you seek....This prolific writer/critic just sounds like someone who would believe the aphorism you have described. http://sun3.lib.uci.edu/~scctr/hri/cocteau/ashton.html Other choices, not confirmed, are Barnett Newman and Andy Warhol..... We'll keep looking.. seedy |
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Re: quote defining "art"
From: journalist-ga on 13 Sep 2002 14:16 PDT |
Good job, PinkFreud, and it is a shame the customer was unfamiliar with the Clarification option. I've had that happen to me as well. |
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