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Afraid of My Boss
Category: Business and Money > Employment Asked by: kdm-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
31 Oct 2005 10:50 PST
Expires: 30 Nov 2005 10:50 PST Question ID: 587103 |
I need some advice on how to quit a job with a demon for a boss. I have wanted to quit for about 6 months now. I've watched two other people successfully quit in that time. Over the last year and a half working for this woman, I have seen her treat everyone who has quit terribly. She yells a lot. I'm afraid to quit because I don't want to have the conversation in which she yells at me, demeans me and talks to me like I'm a piece of filth. Is there anything I can do to avoid this type of confrontation? I would like to just stop coming to work, but I couldn't do that to the other employees here. Anyone had a terrible boss and managed to quit without the fear I have? Any employers who have dealt with employees who didn't like them that would have advice on how to quit without spurring anger? I need to do this in the next few days. |
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Re: Afraid of My Boss
Answered By: tlspiegel-ga on 31 Oct 2005 11:36 PST Rated: |
Hi kdm, Thank you for your question. There is no need for you be afraid of your boss on the day that you quit. What you do is write a very simple letter of resignation and hand it to your boss. Writing a Letter of Resignation http://jobsearchtech.about.com/od/resignationletter/a/resigning_job.htm Keep Your Letter of Resignation Simple "Writing a letter of resignation might be an unpleasant task, but there's really not that much to it. In its simplest form, you just date your letter of resignation, say when and what you're resigning, sign it, hand it over, and that's it. Five minutes, and you're done. Unless you possess the judgment of an attorney and style of a professional writer, don't write much more in your letter of resignation if you wish to use your soon-to-be ex-employer as a reference. There's really no need to explain your reasons for resigning anyway. For one thing, it's really nobody's business but your own. For another, however honorable your reasons may be, it's very hard to strike just the right tone in writing." This is a good one: http://jobsearchtech.about.com/od/letters/l/aa030998_smp2.htm More information here: http://jobsearchtech.about.com/od/resignationletter/ ========= http://jobsearchtech.about.com/od/resignationletter/a/resigning_job.htm "Before resigning your job, it's good idea to prepare to quit. That's because you might get escorted out of the building only hours after resigning, never to return or access the computer network again. It's not unusual or generally illegal for employers to boot resigning employees out the door and cut off their computer network access, before their resignation notice periods expire." [read article for more information on "Before Resigning Your Job" and "Tips for Resigning Your Job" ========= Must I give Two Weeks Notice of Resignation? http://jobsearchtech.about.com/cs/resignationletter/a/twoweeksnotice.htm ========= What To Do When Your Boss Is a Jerk http://www.best-interview-strategies.com/article18.html "Leave. This may be a difficult decision for you, especially if you like your work, benefits, coworkers and company. But you must also consider your sanity (and that of your family to whom you vent). Carefully weigh the alternatives and if you decide that leaving is your best option, do it right. Don't yell "I quit!" during a heated argument. Plan ahead--update your resume, start consulting with your network, look for another job. Your goal, if possible, is to have another job lined up before you tell your boss you're leaving. And even then, resist the temptation to tell him off. Try to leave on the best terms possible and don't burn your bridges. You never know when and where that jerk boss might show up in your future!" ========= keyword search: how to quit my job writing resignation letter boss yells want to quit ========= Best regards and Good Luck to you! tlspiegel | |
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Re: Afraid of My Boss
From: tr1234-ga on 31 Oct 2005 11:52 PST |
tlspiegel-ga's answer tells you everything you want to know, but I thought I'd post a quick comment of support, too. Don't be afraid. Be prepared, but don't be afraid. Yeah, your boss may yell at you--horribly and hatefully, even--when you resign. But they're just words, and you don't have to take them to heart, and eventually your boss will stop yelling, and you'll get up and go home and on to the next stage of your life. The conversation (or argument) may be unpleasant, but it's only a temporary unpleasantless. Take the high road, take whatever your boss dishes out, then move on. Lots of us have been through the same sort of thing, and if we could do survive it, you can. Good luck to you! |
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Re: Afraid of My Boss
From: scubajim-ga on 31 Oct 2005 14:35 PST |
You didn't mention what country you are located in. If you are located in the US this type of treatment by your boss is potentially creating a hostile atmosphere. (CONSULT AN ATTORYNEY) In the US if an employer creates a hostile atmosphere they are opening themselves up to a harassment suit. This is something that the Human Resources Department wants to avoid. You might consider pointing out that behavior to HR. I can assure you that unless they are woefully incompetent they will take immediate steps to correct your bosses behavior. If this is somethig you don't want to do then you might look for another job. Once you ahve found it resign and then request an exit interview with HR. At the exit interview make it verbally clear why you are leaving and that you don't want to face your (now ex-boss about it). Make it clear that you are communicating to HR about the problem in the hopes that they will correct the situation for the sake of other employees and for the benefit of the company. Make it clear that your ex-boss's behavior is not good for the company (contributing to high turnover, poor moral, and potential law suit) and it is HR's responsibility to follow up and correct the situation. |
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Re: Afraid of My Boss
From: cynthia-ga on 31 Oct 2005 16:29 PST |
I can tell you how to make her bite her tongue... Take a small/mini/handheld tape recorder with you when you quit. When she goes off, tell her unless she wants her superiors to hear her tirade of filth and obscenities, she should mind her manners. Here's one for $30 bucks. http://www.x10.com/electronics/products/electronics/portable/voicerecorders/_panasonic_RN2021.html?47700e03906743684366b68b You may need to click past an ad to see it. Good luck, Cynthia |
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Re: Afraid of My Boss
From: tr1234-ga on 31 Oct 2005 19:55 PST |
These last ideas--being prepared to advise Human Resources and/or carrying a tape recorder during the meeting--are indeed ideas to consider, but on the other hand, they might not be applicable to the original questioner's situation (or his/her desire to pursue the situation.) If, for example, this horrible boss is the owner of the company--a small business owner--then there might not really be a superior or a HR department to complain to, right? In any case, both those courses of action involve escalating (or being prepared to escalate) the situation which may or may not really be the wisest or most necessary thing for the departing employee to do. Things to keep in mind, certainly. But they may or may not be exactly right for the individual's situation. |
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Re: Afraid of My Boss
From: pinkfreud-ga on 31 Oct 2005 20:56 PST |
Not everyone can do this, but my solution to the Boss From Hell situation was to tough it out until the boss wrung his own neck. Disagreeable, arrogant bosses often annoy their superiors, and that's what happened in my workplace. It took five years, but finally my boss was fired by HIS boss, and I was still there! |
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Re: Afraid of My Boss
From: frde-ga on 01 Nov 2005 06:13 PST |
I am with Cynthia on the tape recorder. - actually rather annoyed that she pre-empted my solution. Chances are that this 'Boss from Hell' owns the company, so the tape is just a trophy, something you can listen to and play to your friends. - possibly also a little blackmail - although the legality of covert recordings varies by locale - nice insurance should she start giving you foul references Interestingly, KDM-GA, you seem worried about letting your co-workers down, which suggests there is a bit more to the story than you have told us. You don't seem worried about future employment, which is another interesting sign. Remember one thing, she can only shout at you, and make herself sound a fool for posterity. Your biggest problem is that she will turn round and ask you what /she/ is doing wrong - and that is pretty likely - but I suspect that you know that. Record it anyway, but leave the door ajar (physically, the metaphorical version is down to what you really want). |
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Re: Afraid of My Boss
From: cynthia-ga on 02 Nov 2005 14:06 PST |
Sorry frde! Didn't mean to beat you to the punch... tlspiegel gave excellent resources, the resignation letter is quick and painless. Another idea is, if there is an HR Dept, give your resignation letter to them, and tell them why you're going around your boss. If you record the boss and actually get a tirade on tape, the tape itself would be a good example as to WHY you quit. As long as the boss is aware she is being taped, it's legal. I'd walk in with the recorder in my hand, and make it painfully clear the conversation was being recorded, nothing covert is necessary, in fact if you hide the recorder, it loses it's power. Hand the boss the letter and walk away, and keep the recorder near you, running, all the time. The good ones are voice activated and run on a 1 or 2 hour loop. Just leave it running on your desk area. Just remember that after you capture a tirade, you have minimal time to continue recording before it records OVER itself.. At that point, be prepared to be fired, even though you gave notice. Let it know how it comes out! |
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Re: Afraid of My Boss
From: frde-ga on 03 Nov 2005 02:38 PST |
@Cynthia I was amused that you came up with the same solution. One problem with letting people know that you are recording them, is that they shut up fast. I've seen it happen. Letting the Boss from Hell know that you are recording her would deprive posterity of an amusing CD that could circulate for years. Strictly speaking, it is not really legal, but if one is not intending to use it in litigation, then the recording ... kind of ... does not exist. I've also got a hunch that there is a degree of physical intimidation involved here. |
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Re: Afraid of My Boss
From: tlspiegel-ga on 03 Nov 2005 10:55 PST |
Hi kdm, Thank you for the 5 star rating and tip. Best regards, tlspiegel |
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Re: Afraid of My Boss
From: cynthia-ga on 04 Nov 2005 00:54 PST |
frde, LMAO @ ..."Letting the Boss from Hell know that you are recording her would deprive posterity of an amusing CD that could circulate for years..." Yes, that would be more than amusing! |
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