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Information about Tango
Category: Arts and Entertainment Asked by: a2_g-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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02 Nov 2005 13:56 PST
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Is it true that the Tango started in bordellos? What do ?lunfardo,? ?guapo? and ?compadrito? mean in the context of tango history? What kinds of music influenced tango music? How did the bandoneon become popular? Besides your answer, where can I research about the details of all this? I?m willing to tack on a $10 tip for an answer that?s good. |
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Re: Information about Tango
Answered By: guillermo-ga on 09 Nov 2005 17:47 PST Rated: |
Hello A2_g-ga, As an Argentine born in Buenos Aires, I must thank you for your interest in our music. Due to my origin and being a tango fan, I could answer all what you asked off the top of my head, but I will not fail to provide you with supportive information and leads about how to search further, as you requested. My previous knowledge serves, however, to better select the information found. While the actual origin is obscure, all the references point to the brothels or bordellos from the suburbs (arrabales) of around year 1900 in Buenos Aires. Buenos Aires lies on the cost of the Río de la Plata (traditionally translated as River Plate, but actually meaning River of the Silver, and which ultimate gives its name to Argentina -from Latin "argentum", silver), and at that time was surrounded by the country-side of the Buenos Aires province, an agrarian and mostly cattle culture - pretty much like American cowboys. The scenario where the tango developed was in the areas where the remaining - extinguishing - gauchos, began to mix with the urban expansion and the low class European immigrants, mainly Spanish and Italian, but also Polish, Germans, Russian, Arabs, French, Jews from many Eastern European countries, etc. Also are to be considered the last African-Argentine communities - later on absorbed by the typical Argentine tendency to race crossing - which mostly lived in poor areas closer to the port. In sum, the cultural clay that merged and gave birth to tango among its fruits came from the country-side to the city, and from the port to the suburbs. Thus, with base on the Spanish dance "habanera" and the country-men music "milonga campera" (country-side milonga), which also has its roots in African rhythms, in particular River Plate's "candombe", the music that the most grass-root segment of Buenos Aires' population between around 1870 and 1910 played, danced and enjoyed, was this mixture, also enriched by tunes and styles brought by all those immigrants. Besides the brothels, another scene were the tango was developed, played and danced where the "conventillos" - tenement houses - where the local and immigrant lower classes merged. Among them were the tango players, and among them eventually some immigrant showed-up a bandoneon, which seducing, melancholic timbre rapidly seduced the musicians and the public. Bandoneon contributed to a twist in the color of tango, which began as a more cheerful music, and turned into a more melancholic one. In its evolution, the tango mixed the intention of "just having fun" with the melancholy of the suburban grieving. However, the urban "milonga" -- a tango-like much faster rhythm -- conserved this cheerful spirit and its words frequently are satiric stories. Also, the word "milonga" names the tango dancing places, or the situation of tango dancing: "se armó la milonga", "the dance began". That gaucho becoming urban that I referred to above, gave birth to one particular character, the "guapo" or "compadrito", which is the archetypal sociological type associated with the first decades of tango. The link provided by my colleague pinkfreud-ga in her comment (http://www.showgate.com/tango/history.html ) goes very well for the definitions. The "compadrito" or "guapo" is not a nice person, is a tough braggart, a boaster, most likely a killer. In a time when political rights were still to be conquered by the excluded social classes, the compadritos often worked for politicians who hired them in order to sustain their strength in their constituencies, by controlling the neighbourhood. The compadritos used to engage in knives duels between them for whatever differences, that the tango mythology frequently wants to be the favors of a woman. While synonyms, the word "guapo" refers more directly to bravery -- even today we say "hay que ser muy guapo", "you got to be very brave"... say, to go through that situation -- and also it was used as a nickname -- "el guapo Ventarrón", the character of the tango "Ventarrón". The "compadritos" spoke "lunfardo", which can be translated as "slang", and which own etymology is uncertain. Tradition says that lunfardo originated among this close-to-crime milieu, as a resource to confound the policemen and regular people while talking about their illegal activities. Many lunfardo words are variations of foreign voices of the languages spoken by immigrants, typically Italian, but also French and others. One very particular aspect of lunfardo is the use of regular words changing the order of the syllabus, "hablar al *vesre*" (ves-re is the inversion of "revés", meaning "reverse"). Maybe it's done in English, but I've never heard of it, but I did see it in France ("vers'l'an" meaning "l'anvers", reverse), as an "argot" use very alike. Next, I will give you some internet references about the topics covered in the answer and for further research about tango. I focused in references in English, but if you happen to read Spanish, you can benefit from a few I'll give you just in case. History of tango in general: - "Argentine Tango History - Origins of Argentina Tango": http://www.centralhome.com/ballroomcountry/argentino_tango.htm - "The Hidden History of Tango", a brief introdutory text and eight links to specific articles, all of them really worthy: http://www.history-of-tango.com/ - "Tango Music Q&A - Some Basic Knowledge", by Royce Chau: http://www.tangotang.com/Articles/RoyceMusicFAQ.htm About lunfardo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunfardo About the bandoneon (and general tango history), please see: "El Tango", by Eduardo Fernández, http://www.tangoconcepts.com/history.html (Excerpt) "The first tangos were played with guitar, harp, flute, and sometimes an accordion. The bandoneon arrived Buenos Aires around 1865. Developed around 1835 by Heinrich Band, an accordion maker in Karsfeld, it is a portable instrument, related to the organ and harmonium. It is a free reed instrument. It is also a diatonic instrument (that means that every button produces different notes depending on whether it is opening or closing). It has two keyboards, the right one contains 38 keys, and the left one 33 keys. It was made in Germany by Alfred Arnold until WWII, and from his name is know today: the Doble A. Its introduction in El Rio de la Plata was like that of the other immigrants, not too much information about it. What is definite is the fact that since its arrival in Buenos Aires, "El fueye" (squeezebox) as we call the bandoneon, went from the early players, without formal music education to the next generations of very skillful ones. Then, the bandoneon grows up and becomes the center of the tango orchestra. Its heavy and deep sound pushed away for ever the cheerful flute. However, neither Germans nor Europeans were the first to perform on this instrument. The first performers were blacks such as Jose Santa Cruz, his son Domingo Santa Cruz, El Pardo Sebastian Ramos Mejia, and others. The bandoneon reached its maturity when musicians like Arolas, Pedro Maffia and Pedro Laurenz developed and expanded its musical possibilities." The same page also includes the article of the link provided by my colleague that I mentioned above, which is very interesting. If you can read Spanish: - For a possible etymology of the word lunfardo, you can see: http://etimologias.dechile.net/?lunfardo - Also about lunfardo: "LUNFARDO CONSOLIDADO Y LUNFARDO CONSOLIDÁNDOSE", Por Nora López (Established Lunfardo and Lunfardo establishing", by Nora López) http://ar.geocities.com/lunfa2000/pone.html My search strategies were: "history of tango" ://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&safe=off&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2005-38%2CGGLG%3Aen&q=%22history+of+tango%22 "bandoneon history" ://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-38,GGLG:en&q=%22bandoneon+history%22 I hope that the information posted meets your expectations. If any clarification is needed, please don't hesitate to ask. Best regards, Guillermo | |
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Re: Information about Tango
From: pinkfreud-ga on 02 Nov 2005 14:04 PST |
You'll find lots of interesting info here: http://www.showgate.com/tango/history.html |
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Re: Information about Tango
From: dherring-ga on 10 Nov 2005 15:17 PST |
The Tango: The Tango became a dance style created originally in Montevideo, Uruguay and exclusively in Buenos Aires, Argentina in the lower classes of population. As time progressed, the Tango was adopted into local Salons and parlors. The tango became a quick cultural export from South America to Europe as classical and opera music became quickly integrated into it. Soon, the popular dance style jumped the pond again as the Tango was widely accepted into American Culture. Once in America, the Tango soon represented a new baroque sector of dancing for it was highly regarded by the wealthier social classes. The name ?compadrito? in the context of Tango History became known as a typical character of the suburb, a bully and a braggart; one who preached his or her individual version of the newly developing ?tango? dance. Also, the name lunfardo was considered as a slang name for one who is native to Buenos Aires. The name lunfardo can also be attributed as a language of the underworld spoken by immigrants and social rejects as means to communicate with one another without understanding by the authorities. Also, the name Guapo can be considered as one who practices the cult of courage, meaning any man who brings others to embrace his noble thoughts and ideas. In context to the history of the Tango, this could be applied as a man who spreads his knowledge of tango dancing and teaches others his individual forms. Finally, the bandeon became popular among Tango history as German instrument makers perfected their individual type of mouth organ. The bandoneon soon found its place in Tango history for the instrument was capable of playing different notes at the same time with the advent of the free reed sonic principle, which allowed several different instruments to be played, such as harmoniums, reed organs, accordions, harmonicas alongside the bandeon. As newly immigrated bandeon players adapted their instrument to play the Argentinean Milonga, the bandeon?s influence upon the rapidly growing Tango culture was born. Considering the Tango was originally created by young, outgoing, and adventurous teenagers, the origins of Tango can be considered close to rap, break dancing, and even hip hop; for clothing of the time were elegant and flashy, reflecting the original nature of the dance practice. Later, as the Tango mutated into a more elegant form in America, the Tango was to be practiced in socially strict ballroom settings. From the 1920?s to the 1950?s the Tango was peak upon its golden age. Tango music over time became widely varied, for different composers took subtle influences from different genres of music. For example, Astor Piazzolla during the 1950?s, composed Tango music full of melodies formed by jazz and modern art musical influences, removing the ball room atmosphere from the Tango adding less strict, laid back, and more casual attitude towards the dance. Argentine Folklore is exclusively most influential in the makeup of Tango. Argentine Folklore can be considered as a blend of Polka, Mazurka, Paso Doble, and Habanera music, among others. Also, Latin influences of Tango include the once popular ?pampas? or flatlands music of Argentina, which after much transformation became known as The Tango. Meanwhile, Tango music oringinated as two distinct forms. Latin America played the Tango without heavy drum beat while using traditional string instruments. Meanwhile, European style Tango music became adopted with a heavy drum beat, keeping rhythem and pace along with full support of an entire orchestra. These musical influences, among different instrumental influences such as the Bombo drum, (an Argentine Indian beat drum) crafted the future of this new type of dance style which later became known as the Tango. For More Information: http://nfo.net/usa/tango.html |
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Re: Information about Tango
From: guillermo-ga on 10 Nov 2005 21:35 PST |
With respect to Dherring-ga's comment, while some place tango's origin in Montevideo (Uruguay), that cannot be asserted. Rather, we could think of it as a process that involved both sides of the River Plate -- the expression "música rioplatense" (music from the River Plate) is a common place for tango. Buenos Aires and Montevideo (in a broader scope, Argentine littoral and Uruguay) -- while with differences -- share many cultural resemblances, such as a very similar use of the Spanish language, tastes, games, foods, the typical infusion called "mate", etc. Both cities have had a fluid interchange since they were founded about four centuries ago, they belonged to the same Spanish administrative unit, and to the same country for more than one decade after emancipation from Spain, and maritime traffic usually included both ports. So the process I described for Buenos Aires in relation with the origin of tango may very well include Montevideo, and the tango has been an expression of that city too. However, it seems to be Buenos Aires were it rooted more deeply and enduringly, and even Uruguayan tango artists such as singer Julio Sosa or composer Francisco Canaro developed their career in Buenos Aires. One of the reasons may be that Montevideo has developed other genres such as "canto popular uruguayo" (Uruguayan popular singing) and a particular kind of "murga" (very different from the Argentine type, up to the point that, when performed in Argentina by Argentines it is called "murga uruguaya", so that the public would know the kind of performance they'd attend). Those genres have its roots in Uruguayan "candombe", African-origin music still very present in Uruguayan "barriadas" (neighborhoods) -- unlike Argentina where it's virtually extinct -- and also had its part in the origin of tango. About the tango in Uruguay, if you can read Spanish or French, this is a very good material: http://www.tango.montreal.qc.ca/voyagesp.htm (Spanish); http://www.tango.montreal.qc.ca/voyage1.htm (French). (I apologize for not having found a source in English for this). As to the word "guapo", while it denotes bravery, I have to disagree with the idea of "meaning any man who brings others to embrace his noble thoughts and ideas". Words like "guapo", "compadrito", "malevo", "taura" were used to designate violent and fierce men, not idealists. The word word "guapo" is still used in some expressions, such as "lo hice de guapo", meaning "I did it out of arrogance", as when you achieve something in spite of the obstacles opposed by others. It has a positive sense implying "out of courage and determination", but always imposing your prevalence to others. Regarding the word "lunfardo (...) as a slang name for one who is native to Buenos Aires", this is the first time I see such a definition, and could not find any supporting information about it. Most likely, "lunfardo" meant "thief", from the Genovese dialect "lunfardo", meaning "lombardo", from the Italian region Lombardia, where apparently in the Renaissance many usurers came from, thus the use of "lunfardo" ("lombardo") as "thief". Therefore, if in Buenos Aires the thieves invented that particular jargon, it must have been referred to as "talking in *thief* (language)" = "hablar en (idioma) *lunfardo*". Later, the original use of the word "lunfardo" may have become obsolete and lost. (In case you can read Italian, you may find very interesting the article "Italiano d'Argentina" (Italian from Argentina) by Nadia Paris: http://www.ladifferenza.it/article.php3?id_article=92 (Apologies again for lack of a source in English). The mention of Astor Piazzola is quite accurate. I would only add that his having lived part of his childhood in New York (though born in Mar del Plata) left its mark in his approach to tango with that jazz influence. Ultimately, Piazzola left aside completely the dancing origin of tango, making out of it a sort of unique classical-contemporary music to *listen*, not to dance and, mostly, not even to sing. A paradoxical case, Piazzola became maybe the highest Argentine music ever for the world, and the ultimate tango composer, at the end of the golden age of tango. After him, the tango never was the same, but also -- and I don't mean *because* of him, for there were other factors -- in his peak moment (the 60's) the tango began to lose popularity, specially among the youngsters. As to the relation between tango and folklore (although tango is indeed a folklore, we reserve the term folklore for the group of genres from the interior of the country), they are not really related, except for the milonga campera. Most Argentine folkloric dances derive from the ancient Peruvian "samacueca", a 3/4 rythm with African, Indian and Spanish influences, while tango is a 2/4 rithm. Now that I mentioned the 3/4 rythm, I must add that also the worldwide omnipresent waltz makes part of the tango culture, with many tunes -- called "valsecitos" (little waltzes) performed with the typical tango sound. But they are clearly not tangos, but waltzes in a tango fashion. On another note, I found the webpage suggested by Dherring-ga most interesting (http://nfo.net/usa/tango.html ). I hope you find this additional information interesting. Sincerely, Guillermo |
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