When a CD does not sell or a store just has overstock, the CDs get
pulled and are sent back to the distributor. They used to call these
punch outs because the distributor would punch a hole in the case then
put them back in music stores as a discounted item.  There are
Internet music stores selling these punch outs, such as

http://www.wholesalediscs.com/

I want to know how I can buy these cds, in bulk lots, directly from
the distributor or whomever is supplying the internet stores..




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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 09 Nov 2005 12:41 PST

Is this the sort of supplier you're looking for:


http://www.moonlightsales.com/



They typically sell lots of, say, ten thousand CDs at a shot, for 30
or 40 cents per CD.


If this isn't what you're after, can you give us a bit more detail of
what you need.

Thanks,

pafalafa-ga

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Clarification of Question by jerkystick-ga on 09 Nov 2005 15:41 PST

Thank you very much for your assistance. What I am trying to find
would be more like where does http://www.moonlightsales.com/ buy their
stock.

I could be wrong, but I am guessing they buy straight from the
distributor and if so, I would like to know how to buy these cds at
the price http://www.moonlightsales.com/  pays.

Thanks again.

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 09 Nov 2005 16:52 PST

jerkystick-ga,

The original site you mentioned -- www.wholesalediscs.com -- sells CDs
in quantities that are typically 60 or 75 or 100 at a time.  The CDs
themselves cost on the order of 75 cents each.


The site I posted:


http://www.moonlightsales.com/


deals in much larger volume orders, dealing with thousands or even
tens of thousands of CDs at a shot.  Here's one offer of a million
items -- 400,000 CDs and the rest tapes -- for $50,000.

That comes to about 20 cents per CD...a much lower price than offered
at wholesalediscs.com.


Where does wholesaledisc get their merchandise?  Who knows?...and
they're certainly not going to tell me.

However, if you can find a source like moonlightsales.com that sell
discs at a fraction of the price of wholesaledisc.com, then why look
the proverbial gift horse in the mouth?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your needs.  Can you tell us a bit more
about what you're looking for?  What sort of budget you have?  How
many CDs you intend to purchase?  Anything that can help us in helping
you.

Thanks,

paf

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 09 Nov 2005 16:54 PST

Here's the link to the million-CDs+tapes offer:

http://www.moonlightsales.com/products.htm
1 Million+ CDs & Cassettes [First $50K takes it all] 

"We currently have a huge inventory for immediate liquidation. This
lot consists of an estimated 1 Million pcs [400K CDs and 600K
Cassettes] for immediate liquidation. This is lot would be a great
deal for resellers and retailers..."

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Clarification of Question by jerkystick-ga on 10 Nov 2005 08:52 PST

My original question was:

I want to know how I can buy these cds, in bulk lots, directly from
the distributor or whomever is supplying the internet stores..

If I was to start a company in direct competition with the one you
mentioned, how would I go about buying CDs in bulk lots directly from
the distributor?

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 10 Nov 2005 09:07 PST

www.moonlightsales.com *is* the distributor!

They likely get their products from dozens of discrete sources, including:

--companies going out of business

--law enforcement disposal of confiscated goods

--industry auctions of overstock/discontinued goods

--fire sales

--unclaimed merchandise sales

--disposal of off-spec merchandise (e.g. misprinted CDs)


and so on.  


In other words, I believe that outlets like www.moonlightsales.com are
the first place you can go to where a company has already done the
legwork of consolidating lots from dozens of discrete sources.

Otherwise, you have to go to the discrete sources themselves.  This
requires having a well-established network of contacts in the
business.  And it takes a lot of people-power to, say, show up at an
auction, and bid on the lots you want to purchase.

Can you let me know a bit more about where, in the chain of commerce,
you hope to make your entry point?


Thanks.

pafalafa-ga

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Clarification of Question by jerkystick-ga on 10 Nov 2005 09:15 PST

Gotcha.   Then I will consider my question answered and thank you for
your effort. Can you provide me with at least one other source for
price comparison?

jerkystick-ga,

Thanks for getting back to me, and I'm glad that our little dialogue
turned out to be fruitful.


Here are two more sites to be aware of:



http://www.closeoutcentral.com/Music.html
Sometimes has excellent offers, but tends to change quite a bit from day to day.




http://www.wwliquidators.com/index.php3?t=ea402675f8e58cf347b0ce0dcbf45e14&x=170&logged_name=&submit=list
I like this site particularly because they often show the per-CD price
(e.g. 75 cents per CD), and have a wide variety of lot sizes, which is
just a handy way to visualize what they're offering.


I trust this information fully answers your question.  

However, please don't rate this answer until you have everything you
need.  If you would like any additional information, just post a
Request for Clarification to let me know how I can assist you further,
and I'm at your service.

Best of luck with your ventures.


pafalafa-ga



search strategy -- Used a variety of bookmarked sites for wholesalers
and drop-shippers

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Request for Answer Clarification by jerkystick-ga on 11 Nov 2005 08:52 PST

On the http://www.moonlightsales.com/ site they comment


"We work closely with various media manufactures, distributors &
retailers to help keep their excess stock from being destroyed and
land-filled"


Just to clarify what I wanted to know was how do I buy from the
distributors they mentioned.  Is this information not available?

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Clarification of Answer by pafalafa-ga on 11 Nov 2005 11:08 PST

The remark you quoted is a good example of the type of networking that
I mentioned earlier -- moonlightsales.com reaches out to (probably)
dozens of sources of goods, to keep tabs on what's available and make
it available through its service.

For instance, have a look at these guys:


http://www.salvagecloseouts.com/truckloads.html


where they offer surplus mercvhandise by the truckload, that they sell
(for a deep discount) at $10,000 a pop or more.

Sooner or later, a truckload of CD's will come available, and when it
does, a CD merchandiser has to be ready to pounce, make an offer on
the truck, and then turn around and sell them to the next person in
the chain of commerce.

This is what moonlightsales.com does.  


I fully understand your desire to be the guy at the very head of the
line, getting the best possible deal on the merchandise when it
becomes available for the very first time.

But being at the head of the line takes a huge commitment of time and
networking, to know what becomes available, where, and when, and then
be there to close the deal before everyone else.


I have to stick with my initial answer, that the links I provided
represent a sensible starting point for deeply discounted merchandise.
 Unless you're willing to build up a network of primary sources of
your own, the guys I linked to are the place to start.


I don't mean any of this as a brush-off.  If you need more info, I'll
be glad to get it for you...just let me know.  But I really do think
you're as far back in the chain as one can reasonably expect to
be...at least when starting out in the business.

Best of luck,


paf

thanks