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Fair covering of religions
Category: Relationships and Society > Religion Asked by: goodinquirer-ga List Price: $25.00 |
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14 Nov 2005 19:29 PST
Expires: 14 Dec 2005 19:29 PST Question ID: 593048 |
I am starting to suspect there is a bias in the religion coverage of Newsweek and Time Magazines. My question is the following: while they rutinely feature Christian (catholic, proestant, mormon)topics, sometimes very negative ones (such as priest's wrongdoings), Islamic and even Tribal religions, why is the Jewish religion almost never featured; and if so always strictly in a positive light (for example, by talking ONLY about the holocaust or trivialities)? I am starting to think that this week's coverage of the Mormon religion by Newsweek, where it shows Mormon's in powerful positions, would never be done for the Jewish, amid fear of accusations of being anti-semitic. In case the finding is positive (i.e. it is not only MY perception), then it would be nice to know the religions of the editorial and share holding comitees of these two magazines. | |
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Re: Fair covering of religions
From: elids-ga on 15 Nov 2005 09:03 PST |
haha, you must be very young and just now figuring out how the world works... the media is controlled by people, people almost never portray themselves in a bad light. In the States the media is controlled by Jewish folks hence they don't attack themselves, in Iran most of the media is controlled by Muslim folks they have a tendency to not attack themselves either. The same can be said about everybody everywhere. Keep in mind the media i/e time, NYpost ect is a for profit commercial venture, they are there not so much to report the news as it happens to but report the news that will sell papers, magazines ect so that they can make money. That is their goal to turn a profit not to educate or inform you. If they were to consistently report news that although true is displeasing to their readers, those readers would stop buying. :-) Hope that helps. Eli |
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Re: Fair covering of religions
From: goodinquirer-ga on 16 Nov 2005 12:54 PST |
Dear Elids-ga, Your comment certainly does help, and yes, I am certainly jung. I like a lot the comparison about the media in an Islamic state not talking bad things about Islam. The only problem I see with it is that while in those places the bias of the media is in line with the bias of the majority of the populations (an their interests), it seems awkard that in the west, which we regard as more advanced, it might not be the case, but even the opposite! (i.e. meaning that the media employs a bias that benefits only a very small minority) |
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Re: Fair covering of religions
From: goodinquirer-ga on 16 Nov 2005 12:54 PST |
young, I ment, sorry! |
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Re: Fair covering of religions
From: leliathomas-ga on 14 Dec 2005 10:03 PST |
"I am starting to suspect there is a bias in the religion coverage of Newsweek and Time Magazines." Is it a bias or covering majority interests? According to Religion Tolerance (http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.htm), some studies reveal 86 percent of Americans adhere to at least some form of Christianity. Other studies say anywhere from 78 to 90 percent. Newsweek and Time, as well as most other media companies, have not only a job of reporting but also the job of business. They have to meet demand in interest. The more interesting the majority of people find them, the more subscribers/buyers they'll have. It's a business as much as service to the community in reporting. "My question is the following: while they rutinely feature Christian (catholic, proestant, mormon)topics, sometimes very negative ones (such as priest's wrongdoings), Islamic and even Tribal religions, why is the Jewish religion almost never featured; and if so always strictly in a positive light (for example, by talking ONLY about the holocaust or trivialities)?" As I mentioned above, it's partially a demand issue. According to the CIA World Factbook (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html#People), 1 percent of the American population is Jewish, so it might be unlikely that Elids statement that the media is controlled by Jews is accurate. Secondly, what up and coming information is there to write about when it comes to Jews in America? Maybe you should write the magazines, showing your interest and ask them yourself. Knowing there is an interest, even if a small one, will give them more incentive to search out for stories of that nature. As for mentioning of the Holocaust, the answer to that is easy. Anyone younger than 60 doesn't really look at it in a light to reveal the truth. The Holocaust occurred less than 100 years ago. People that were involved in the Holocaust, whether directly or indirectly (i.e. in WWII) are still living. Moreover, not all issues revolving around the Holocaust are even solved to this day, and many people want answers. Wounds haven't totally healed for some people yet, even to this day, so there are stories still found there. Considering millions of Jews (as well as others) were affected by this event, both in it and abroad, it's very easy for the stories involving Jews to have some crossover with the horrific event. "I am starting to think that this week's coverage of the Mormon religion by Newsweek, where it shows Mormon's in powerful positions, would never be done for the Jewish, amid fear of accusations of being anti-semitic." I think people sometimes find conspiracy theories where there aren't any. There are somewhere around 14 million Jews in the world. There are about 6 billion people on earth. I found through religioustolerance.org that there are about 12 million, but I'm not sure how that falls totally in the U.S. or even worldwide. That was also a 1999 statistic. At any rate, "bad news is good news" for the media (ever noticed?). Of course they're going to cover whatever juicy stuff they can get. Why might they be a bit slower to do that with Jews? Not because they're controlling the world, but because there could be a backlash from a multitude of people for fear--not offense, I'd say--that it was anti-semetic. I'd guess this is in part because of what I discussed earlier; some pains are still fresh wounds in some ways. To flip things. Take someone like Martin Luther King Jr. While some bad things are mentioned about him, the majority are all good, while the bad are shoved under the rug. Is Newsweek, the Times and others afraid to speak anything ill over an icon? Of course they are. Political correctness holds them back on all sides. This is why printed media isn't as real as it should be. "In case the finding is positive (i.e. it is not only MY perception), then it would be nice to know the religions of the editorial and share holding comitees of these two magazines." No, it's not only your perception, most certainly. However, it's not hard to find anything negative on Jews; you need only run a search on the internet or listen long enough to a more upfront, blunt talk radio host. And while one's religion (or lack thereof, for that matter) most assuredly affects every day actions and perceptions, it would be a violation, an intrusion to make people bare themselves like that, no matter their faith. If Newsweek and the Times, as well as other printed magazines are too Jew-friendly to those reading them, I suggest finding another magazine or reading political blogs that have a good reputation for accuracy (there are many). Some lean one way, others lean another--such is the way of all things. Check out places like http://technorati.com/pop/news/ or look at their tag on news and politics at http://technorati.com/tag/News+and+politics. One thing to think about overall is that if one wants to find a political bias, he most certainly will. They are everywhere and for everyone, depending on where you are looking. |
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Re: Fair covering of religions
From: myoarin-ga on 14 Dec 2005 17:17 PST |
Goodinquirer, I think you have a point, it is simply politically incorrect to talk about Jews in any collective way. The minute one does, even in the most positive manner, someone may infer an entirely unexpressed antisemitic motive. For example, an article praises Jews' philanthropy, and someone is likely to infer: "Yeah, of course, but how did they get so rich so that they could give away all that money? That is what the article is really implying" Or: "And why didn't they give to this or that poor folks project instead of in support of higher education? The article is suggesting that Jews are elitist and only care about projects for the elite." (Whereby such a project is more likely to benefit Blacks and 2nd generation Vietnamese emigrants.) The media just avoid the hassle, although Elids may also be right: the hassle could start within the medium itself. Furthermore, with justification after many centuries of problems, Jews have in the last century been able to establish defenses against prejudice, the Anti-Defimation League in USA: http://www.adl.org/main_about_adl.asp and also in Europe after WW II. These organizations are understandably very sensitive, so it behooves the media to avoid conflicts. And then there is Israel. Any criticism of Israel is potentially criticism of Jews, and immediately interpreted as such by anyone who wants to, which, of course, also includes many Jews, i.e., that it is implied antisemitism. "Antisemitism" is just a specific expression of prejudice, but one burdened with much more implications: Anyone expressing antisemitism is not just prejudiced against Jews - like the person might be, against Catholics, Afro-Americans or Mormons - he is by implication denying all the terrible past sufferings of the Jews, progroms and holocaust, so again the media avoid the hassle. Does this help? Myoarin |
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Re: Fair covering of religions
From: goodinquirer-ga on 20 Dec 2005 07:24 PST |
yes it does! thank you very much |
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Re: Fair covering of religions
From: myoarin-ga on 20 Dec 2005 08:49 PST |
Greetings Goodinquirer, Thanks for coming back, and with your nice comment! As a cruising commenter here, one sees so many postings receive no reply, the question canceled after a posting that must have answered it (not just my postings). I hope you receive some more interesting comments. Regards, Myoarin |
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Re: Fair covering of religions
From: mosheebner-ga on 20 Dec 2005 09:17 PST |
Newsweek routinely criticizes Jews and portrays them in a negative light. However it gets out its need for Jewbashing against Israel (a country almost 80% Jewish) while leaving US Jewry alone. the idea that the Jews control the US media is however fallacious. CNN for example is 20% controlled by Saudi arabs whereas Turner networks are owned by Ted Turner an openly rabid anti-semite. It is true however that Jews believe strongly in advancing themselves through education and as thus there are many Jews in influential positions in the US. That may in fact have a certain amount of influence on the non-Jewish media magnates when they decide how to cover stories in the same way that now it's considered non-PC to attack muslims in the US even as their coreligionists murder and enslave people from Iran to Sudan in the name of allah. And of course the idea that Jews wouldn't do stories that are against Jews is utterly ridiculous. One just has to listen to the "ultimate American Jew" Woody Allen to see a rabid self hating anti-semite whose films ridiculing Jews are among Hollywoods classics. fair? in the end every story is subjective. To Americas Arab "friends" in Saudi Arabia Osama Bin Laden is a devout muslim carrying out the will of allah against the infidel westerners. Whose to say who's right. But most people can see that the nobel prizes for accomplishments (voted on by a committee of non muslims or jews) go in huge proportion to Jews and rarely to arabs (accepting Yasser Arafat's peace prize). Whether God's world is better served by people making discoveries that benefit the human race or by people blowing themselves up ramming planes into civilian buildings is for the individual to decide. |
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Re: Fair covering of religions
From: goodinquirer-ga on 21 Dec 2005 13:00 PST |
I completely agree with you, but I think that if you are blessed with the genes that make so much genious possible, you have a large responsability to use them well and to the benefit of all humanity. I think it was Churchill who said that Jews are paradox because agruably the most constructive theories and knowlege comes from them (Enistein, Jesus, Freud, and, as you say, countless Nobel prices) and also Marx, Lenin, and plenty of heartless very intelligent capitalists that I think do a lot to create the mean jew perception in a large proportion of the population. I just think it jews would be better served in the longterm critizising more those amongs them that give you a bad name (because they are blessed with a powerful community and genes that support them) because are selfish (even if only community selfish that is), arrogant and treat non-fidels as cash cows. The majority of other good and even great Jews would be better served to crtizise them openly and no merely try to aggresively suppres any crtizism agains ANY part of your community. If you do that, everybody would be able to appreciate how good most of you are for everyone and, because I believe people in the end are not stupid, a lot of antisemitism would recede. But I believe the road most of the jews think is the right one (i.e. be aggresive agains any criticism) is not the correct one, even if you have been hurt in the past. The true way to come out of so much sowed hatred is to stop it at its root, where it originates, and not only where it reverberates. But thanks a lot for your contribution, since I think it is thoughful and insightful. |
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Re: Fair covering of religions
From: arabbi-ga on 01 Jan 2006 19:59 PST |
goodinquirer, I think it's unfair to portray Marx and Lenin as evil or heartless. They were incredibly misguided, but they honestly believed that what they were setting out to do was for the benefit of all mankind. Perhaps they are proof positive that Jews can do some of the stupidest things as well. The most distinct contribution that the Jews gave the world was knowledge of One G-d. Over half the planet now believes in the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. To return to your question, the very first result on a google search of "site:newsweek.com Judaism" (://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=newsweek.com+judaism&btnG=Google+Search) results with: "The Union of Reform Judaism's vote to oppose the war in Iraq was a mistake and embarrassment for my movement." I think that's from their columnist Marc Gellman who is a Reform Rabbi. The reason this is really a surprise, and this is something you have probably not watched for, is that Newsweek will applaud Reform Judaism but has nothing nice to say about the Orthodox. Newsweek doesn't criticize Christianity more than Judaism -- it likes liberals and doesn't like traditionalists. So whether you are the Pope or an Orthodox Rabbi, you are in for unfriendly treatment -- and the most liberal Protestant denominations are applauded as frequently as Reform Judaism. And this is true pretty much across-the-board in the American media. |
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Re: Fair covering of religions
From: markvmd-ga on 02 Jan 2006 18:02 PST |
I dunno, maybe you are missing a point or two about Jews. They have a high emphasis on education, low incidence of alcoholism and drug abuse, low incidence of divorce, low incidence of criminal behaviour, high expectation for prudent behaviour, and a competitive nature among themselves. Maybe there isn't a lot to report. I'd be pretty bored reading in The Economist about "Barry" and his wonderful dental practice, he always did so well in school, like have I ever told you about his eighth-grade social studies report, it would make a mother kvell? |
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From: goodinquirer-ga on 05 Jan 2006 04:35 PST |
Dear arabbi-ga. I think you are right about the liberal-orthodox specturm you portray, and I hadn't thought of it that way. Thank you for the useful insight on that! |
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