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Subject:
The Name Teige
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: mr_plumley-ga List Price: $12.00 |
Posted:
16 Nov 2005 07:38 PST
Expires: 16 Dec 2005 07:38 PST Question ID: 593734 |
Hello, I would like to know if there is a precedent for pronouncing the name 'Teige' to rhyme with the word 'cage' or 'beige'. If there is a precedent for this pronunciation, I would like to know the origin and meaning of this version. Why do I want to know this? Well, my wife and I are expecting our first child in March and we've started to look into names. We're looking into this name for a boy. When I was younger, approximately 10 years old (nearly 20 years ago), I met a boy who had this name (phonetically: Tage) and it has stuck with me all these years. I never knew how he spelled it and I don't know his heritage. I shared the name with my wife about a month ago and she likes it (though she isn?t as set on it as I am!). As qualifiers: We could use the spelling 'Tage' or possibly 'Taige' or another alternative, but we're not fans of these spellings. If we're going to use the name, both my wife and I like the spelling 'Teige'. I know we could just use the spelling and pronounce it however we want, but, if it's out there, I would like to have a valid example of the spelling and pronunciation my wife and I like. Let me pass along some of my research: The most common pronunciation appears to be like 'Tiger' but without the last syllable (without the 'r'). However, my wife posts on a pregnancy message board where she has asked about this name. She received a reply from a lady who works with someone with this as a last name. According to the lady, her coworker pronounces it to rhyme with the color 'beige'. This appears to be a precedent, but the lady that replied to my wife said the person with this last name was French, Czechoslovakian, and Russian. I ran into a Czech version of the name at http://www.nyu.edu/greyart/exhibits/teige/. It says the name is pronounced TY-ghe ('Tiger' without the 'r'). It looks like I have two opposing views here or there are a couple Czech pronunciations. Or the name has been filtered through France? I haven't been able to find any documentation of the pronunciation I like, aside from two message board references (one is the reply to my wife). Also, there are a few websites that say 'Teige' is an anglicized version of the Irish name 'Tadhg'. 'Tadhg' is pronounced similar to 'Tiger' without the 'r'. 'Teige' appears to be of Irish origin meaning poet and, on some websites, to additionally mean philosopher. I have also run into a couple websites that say the origin is English and it means good looking. Since the evidence for the Irish origin appears to outweigh the evidence for an English origin, I?ve mostly focused on the Irish results. I would like to know if the meaning of the pronunciation I like has the same meaning as the traditional Irish pronunciation (or is it simply the Irish name with an English pronunciation; hence anglicized!). Thanks for your help. |
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Subject:
Re: The Name Teige
Answered By: hedgie-ga on 21 Nov 2005 12:24 PST |
Hello Kotte-koe (and how do you pronounce that?) The name Teige, as a first name, is not Czech, nor even Slavic. The last name of Karel Teige, an important Czech intellectual from the period between the two wars is German. (Many Czechs of Jewish origin have German last names due to certain royal edict in the 17th century). The first name 'Karel'=Charles is related to czech král'=king. In German "ie" is pronounced like ee in green and 'ei' is prounced like the i in bike. As a first name, Teige is Anglicised from similar Irish/ Scottish names: Names that are related to TEIGE: TADG m Irish, Scottish TADHG m Irish, Scottish TEAGUE m Irish TEIGUE m Irish http://www.behindthename.com/php/extra.php?extra=r&terms=teige and there is some debate among experts about pronounciation: >4. distinction of @i/ai - Tadhg/Taidhg - is it worth imitating? In Donegal, we say /te:g/ and /te:g'/, so... [ http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:91sfllZUlFEJ:www.daltai.com/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/daltai/discus/show.pl%3Ftpc%3 ] ( [..] means whole long URL has to bee pasted into browser - without spaces) where 'e:' is the ASCII transcription of IPA character which sounds like e:(r) in turn, learn Amer / Brit http://www.antimoon.com/how/pronunc-ascii.htm However, the "proper" pronounciation may prove irrelevant. I know a yong lady called named Nike (Greek godess), which was pronounced it the Greek way in your youth in Europe. Now she is in the U.S. and Americans pronounce this goddess like the brand of shoes or the missile 'Nike', Soon after she moved to the US she decided to keep the spelling but adopt the pronounciation "Nicky", since she does not want to sound like a brand of shoes. You may very well have a similar problem and solution on your hands. (You may want to see the movie 'LA story' for more on pronounciation and spelling of names) You may be interested about what the name means: McKaig (and the several spelling variations) is an Anglicized form of Mac Thaidhg , a Gaelic name found in Scotland and Ireland which means "son of Tadhg." Tadhg is an ancient given name that meant "Poet, Philosopher" in Gaelic. http://shop.store.yahoo.com/4crests/surmeanio.html Irish MacDermotts The family descends are a branch of the O'Connors, descended from Tadhg O'Connor (Teige of the White Steed), who was King of Connacht before the Norman invasion. Tadhg has a son Maolruanaidh, and it is from him that the tribe got its name - Clan Mulrooney. The sept took its name from Mulrooney's grandson, Diarmuid O Maelruanaidh Mor, King of Moylurg from 1124 to 1159 and brother of Conor, King of Connacht. http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/hardiehistory/namemeanings/names/mcdermott.htm Hope this answers your question and perhaps also gives you some food for thought. Hedgie (which the Czechs pronounce "head gee yeh") |
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Subject:
Re: The Name Teige
From: kottekoe-ga on 16 Nov 2005 20:09 PST |
I pity the poor kid, since no one will know how to pronounce or spell his name. |
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