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Truth in society
Category: Relationships and Society > Cultures Asked by: proffesor-ga List Price: $40.00 |
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21 Nov 2005 02:09 PST
Expires: 21 Dec 2005 02:09 PST Question ID: 595708 |
I am looking for material that illustrates the prolifferation of lies in society. Anecdotes, studies... One fruitful area might be truth in advertising. It has become so commonplace to lie in the name of commerce that the consumer isn't even fazed by it, quirks like 'New and Improved", if it's new it can't be improved, if it's improved it can't new... One way of illustrating the point would be to find people from other cultures who weren't brought up with Madison Ave deceptions, and see their reactions to those duplicities that strike us as normal. |
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Re: Truth in society
From: geof-ga on 21 Nov 2005 06:48 PST |
You seem to be assuming that "non-Madison Avenue" societies are more truthful. I'm very doubtful. For example, take the many societies throughout the world where bargaining over the price of goods is the norm. Such haggling is clearly based on lying - sellers ask for more money than they know the goods are worth; buyers offer less. Both are lying; and know that each other is lying; but accept it as calmly as we Westerners accept advertisers' hyberbole and distortion. |
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Re: Truth in society
From: proffesor-ga on 21 Nov 2005 13:46 PST |
Good point. My interest isn't in defending or accusing one society against another, I am looking for common day examples that would help illustrate a pattern of lying that might therefore come to shape the the consumer... |
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Re: Truth in society
From: geof-ga on 21 Nov 2005 14:44 PST |
Fair enough. Having travelled quite a lot all over the world, I would say that when it comes to commercial transactions lying by the seller or provider is the norm. As you say, we in the "sophisticated" West are all too familiar with the exaggerated claims of producers and advertisers. But, if anything, the situation is even worse in "simpler" societies (partially because of the lack of legal protection) where, for example, made-up bus and train timetables, fake branded goods and broken promises of refunds etc are the norm. However, to provide an example from my home country, the UK - though I'm sure things are much the same in the US and elsewhere - I would mention property selling. It would be practically impossible to sell ones house or flat if one told the entire truth. In addition to usually asking for more than the property is worth, one must omit any mention problem areas; pretend that one has been deleriously happy in a home one is glad to be rid of; and invent reasons for hurrying the process along (eg the fictional other interested party). I personally have tried to sell a flat while being open and honest; but soon found it simply was not viable. |
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Re: Truth in society
From: bc3-ga on 01 Dec 2005 13:14 PST |
You might find Sisella Bok's books useful: Lying: Moral choice in Public and Private Life. NY, Pantheon Books 1978, and Secrets: On the Ethics of Concealment and Revelation. Oxford, OUP, 1982. Our cynical reactions to advertising has spread to political discourse, as recent examples show only too clearly. |
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