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Subject:
Moving Existing 401(k) Contributions to Roth 401(k)
Category: Business and Money > Finance Asked by: realitor-ga List Price: $15.00 |
Posted:
28 Nov 2005 03:51 PST
Expires: 28 May 2006 11:45 PDT Question ID: 598460 |
My current employer will likely begin offering employees a Roth 401(k) option for 2006. For the past two years, I have contributed the maximum to the company's regular 401(k). Beginning in 2006, I will be on extended leave from the company while I complete a PhD. So while I am still an employee, I will be drawing no salary in the coming years. As such, now seems like a good opportunity for me to convert my 401(k) tax-deferred contributions to a Roth-type account, as I will be in the lowest income tax bracket for the next several years. Will I be able to move the contributions and earnings that I have already made with the regular 401(k) to the Roth 401(k) - in a similar manner to how one would move money from a Traditional to a Roth IRA (including the fact that reallocated money would not be added into my AGI)? Please include any references, in particular IRS documentation or news articles interpreting IRS documentation, used in answering this question. I'm interested primarily in whether or not such a reallocation can occur, but also in any constraints on such an action (e.g. whether it changes your AGI - thereby possibly pushing you into a higher tax bracket - whether it depends on current salary, amount already in the regular 401(k), etc.). If you need any clarification about the question, don't hesitate to ask. Thank you. |
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Subject:
Re: Moving Existing 401(k) Contributions to Roth 401(k)
From: daniel2d-ga on 28 Nov 2005 20:03 PST |
Save the fifteen dollars. If you have a Roth contact your current custodian or if you do not set up a Roth. They will be able to advise you about transferring the funds. |
Subject:
Re: Moving Existing 401(k) Contributions to Roth 401(k)
From: realitor-ga on 28 Nov 2005 21:42 PST |
Thanks for the comment. I have a Roth IRA, but Roth 401(k)'s do not yet exist. That's why the answer seems so hard to come by. The "custodian" of my regular 401(k) is the company my employer has chosen to handle our benefits, and they have been of little help. I'm assuming that the 401(k) conversion (i.e. moving funds from traditional 401(k) to Roth 401(k)) should mirror the conversion rules currently in place for IRAs, but I'm looking for verification of this. |
Subject:
Re: Moving Existing 401(k) Contributions to Roth 401(k)
From: stevenkjones-ga on 02 Jan 2006 18:17 PST |
I am a consultant in retirement plans with 30 years experience. Internal revenue code 402(a) describes the new Roth 401(k). The IRS just last week issued proposed final regulations on this section of the code. You are assuming that Congress treated the Roth 401(k) the same as Roth IRAs. Unfortunately, there are differences and one is that you cannot convert a tradional pre-tax 401(k) account to a Roth 401(k). This option just was not included in the enabling legislation. You could effect what you want if you are able to request a distribution from your 401(k) plan in the form of a direct rollover to an IRA and after that IRA is created, convert it to a Roth IRA under the IRA rules of IRC 408. Again unfortunately, since you are still technically employed, you may not be eligible for a distribution from your 401(k) plan. It is not lawful for a plan to allow distributions of pre-tax 401(k) funds from a plan to participants during employment prior to age 59 1/2 (except for certain hardships which are not allowed to be rolled to an IRA anyway). You will need to contact your plan administrator (usually your employer) to find out if they consider you to have technically terminated employment so that you can qualify for a distribution. This is the only way you can do what you want to do. |
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