Dear aluivera-ga,
I have conducted research on this web site and company and once you
have read the below information, you may well take the same view as me
that it would be advisable NOT to enter into any business dealings
with them.
I should add that I am a retired New Scotland Yard Fraud Squad Officer
so I can draw on a great deal of experience.
Fraudsters ask for Telegraphic Transfer or Western Union payments as
these cannot be stopped or easily traced, especially when sent to
countries such as Indonesia where corruption is rife, money laundering
regulations lax, and to mount an investigation to find any lost money
is nigh on impossible.
First, their web site.
http://buanaelectronics.net/
Their contact details are given as:
Address: Komp. Asia Mega Mas Main St, #18
Medan 20778, Sumatera Utara -Indonesia
Phone +62 81 375 000082
Fax +62 81 370 030330
sales@buanaelectronics.net
http://www.buanaelectronics.net/index_files/Page411.htm
The main thing about the site is that the vast majority of the words
are copied directly from a legitimate web site in New York. Changes
are only made in the company name. J & R Electronics are based in New
York. Have a look at their web site, in particular the ?About Us?
page.
http://www.jr.com/templates/information/aboutJR.tem
Now compare it with the Buana Electronics page.
http://www.buanaelectronics.net/home.htm
The following text is a direct copy of the J&R Electronics web site
with amendments made as required for the company name.
?Buana Electronics. is unique in the world of retailing. We are a
megastore with the personal touch of your local retailer... a
family-owned business with a reputation that spans the globe. Now,
this same combination of price, selection, security, and service has
been extended to our website.?
?amazingly intense customer loyalty?
?All this time, Buana Electronics.has steadily opened separate stores
on this block, each with its own identity, and now Medan City is Buana
Electronics.?
?In addition to the retail operation, Buana Electronics. reaches
customers throughout Worldwide from Medan City - Indonesia to All
Around the World. Customer Service reps can be reached online and
customers can place an orders 7 days a week.?
?has been a leader in presenting cutting-edge technology, a tremendous
selection, discount prices, and excellent customer service?
?For virtually every product we sell, we?re an authorized dealer. This
means that each product you buy from us is backed by the full support
of the manufacturer. With our own extensive customer service, you can
rest assured that your satisfaction is of utmost importance.?
Their Policies page is a direct copy of a genuine company?s policy
page: Dynaco.com. Only the company?s name has been changed.
See this page
http://www.dynaco.com/policies.html
And now compare it with
http://www.buanaelectronics.net/index_files/Page362.htm
I have not looked too deeply at each product details as the
descriptions appear on numerous sites as the same and these may well
be descriptions issued by the manufacturers.
Description: Apple iPod 20GB 4th Gen. MP3 Player uses the words "In
the car. On the treadmill. At"
http://www.buanaelectronics.net/index_files/Page575.htm
See the hits on Google using the below link.
"In the car. On the treadmill. At"
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22In+the+car.+On+the+treadmill.+At%22&btnG=Search
Finally, on their ?How to order? page they state that ?Due to much
fraud, we accept Telegrafic Transfer or Western Union only for the
payment methode to International Transaction and Cash only for Local
Transaction.?
http://www.buanaelectronics.net/index_files/Page923.htm
This wording also appears on this site. Sedotan.com
http://www.sedotan.com/orders.html
On scam.com message board there is multiple postings by one person
alleging this company (Sedotan.com) is a fraud.
http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?s=60fe57bd47dd4df996ac3afdf9230ba3&p=83945#post83945
Returning now to Buana electronics. Buana electronics appears on only
a couple of trade and business directories. Entry on these directories
is free and can be made by anyone. This is the entry for
Buanaelectronics on Tradekey.
http://www.tradekey.com/profile_view/uid/7955/Buana-Electronics.htm
You will note the following contact information - with it should be
noted, has a different telephone number - and the alleged date they
were established: 2002, and alleged number of employees 51-100.
?Mr. Andy Satria (Sales)
Company: Buana Electronics
Address: Komp. Asia Mega Mas Main St, #18, Medan, NS, Indonesia
Zip/Postal: 20778
Telephone: 62-61-77567746
Fax: 62-61-77567746?
A search on Andy Satria shows a connection with this company at the same address:
?Nafsukuw Inc
Contact Person: Andy Satria
Address: Komp. Asia Mega Mas Main St, #18
Indonesia [ID]
State/Province: NS
City: Medan
Post code: 20778
Telephone: +62-81370-722722
Website: http://www.nafsukuw.com?
http://www.chinae.com/view_member.asp?id=2233442
This company is discussed as a fraudulent company on this message
board. One poster gives some useful advice on conducting business in
Indonesia.
http://www.ixat.net/Default.asp?PageID=21&PostID=7386
The web site for Nafsukuw Inc is no longer in operation, but from this
entry on a business directory, you will see that they used the same
words that appear on the J & R Electronics and Buana Electronics web
sites.
http://book-markers.manufacturer.asianproducts.com/supplier_1/Nafsukuw-Inc_A11149499810369718.htm
They have been suspended from this site.
http://www.exporters.sg/member_profile.asp?co_id=56891
Finally, Buana Electronics domain registration owner through Online
Nic is detailed below. The address appears to be a hotel in Las Vegas.
The contact email is a free email service in Indonesia and therefore
untraceable. The domain was only regsitered in 2005.
Registrant :
Ricard Tambunan humanity@sctvnews.com +1.8668374223
NA
160 East Flamingo Road
Las Vegas NV US 89109
Domain Name: BUANAELECTRONICS.NET {buanaelectronics.net }
Registration Date : 2005-7-5
Expiration Date : 2006-7-5
Last update :2005-07-05 15:57:47
Domain Name Server:
ns13.hostcolor.us
ns14.hostcolor.us
Administrator:
Ricard Tambunan humanity@sctvnews.com +1.8668374223
NA
160 East Flamingo Road
Las Vegas NV US 89109
http://www.onlinenic.com/whois/index.php
Free email service
http://www.sctvnews.com/login.php
The name Ricard Tambunan is used as a contact for these companies. I
have not pursued investigation of any of these as I consider each of
them to be of doubtful legitimacy.
http://trade.indiamart.com/details.mp?offer=356326&group=10&cat=56&disp=A&start=180
http://wdtrade.com/Free_Enterprise.aspx?type=2&ENTERID=10761&cat=catname
http://www.exporters.com.sg/member_profile.asp?co_id=52173
"160 East Flamingo Road" 89109
://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22160+East+Flamingo+Road%22+89109&btnG=Search&meta=
There are several areas I could investigate further to show how there
are connections between these various entities and names but I don?t
think it would fundamentally influence your decision.
So, in summary:
Their web site uses copyright wording.
The contact details vary.
No evidence of proper company registration.
Domain name registration suspect.
Links with other dubious companies and individuals.
Method of payment suspect.
I hope this answers your question. If it does not, or the answer is
unclear, then please ask for clarification of this research before
rating the answer. I shall respond to the clarification request as
soon as I receive it.
Thank you
answerfinder
As a postscript, here are some fraud prevention tips from a business web site.
Avoid T/T (Telegraphic Transfer), Western Union. These two wiring
payment services were conducted by banks(Telegraphic Transfer) or
credit agencies(Western Union). They are being used for so long
because of its simplicity.
The main disadvantage is that the real owner of the account cannot be identified.
For example, your business partner, who you might not have met before
created a dummy account and asked you to wire the money to this
account. After you have sent the money, he/she can run away with your
money and you cannot trace your business partner again.
If your business partner insists on making payment via these type of
method, please be cautious and alert.
Most of the attempted frauds reported to us are related to Telegraphic
Transfer or Western Union. Victims usually complained about:-
After a deal has been agreed upon and the money has been sent out, the
person who received the money was disappear and the money cannot be
traced.
It is very difficult to get your money back if fraud is unfortunately happened.
http://ckw19.gm11.b2bquote.com/b2bquote/b2bFraudTips.htm
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