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Subject:
Gravity
Category: Science Asked by: scottyladd-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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29 Nov 2005 11:51 PST
Expires: 29 Dec 2005 11:51 PST Question ID: 599079 |
If something goes up, does it stop before it comes down or does it change direction without a ceasession of motion? |
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Re: Gravity
From: cjdavis-ga on 29 Nov 2005 12:06 PST |
if I remember right it is at Zero Gravity for an instant, so for that instant it would be stopped. Velocity would be Zero if goint strait up. if it is arched then it doesn't stop |
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Re: Gravity
From: bcreid83-ga on 29 Nov 2005 12:20 PST |
If something goes up, does it stop before it comes down or does it change direction without a ceasession of motion? ANSWER: Yes. Theoretically, the object will come to a stop before coming down. But it will remain stopped for only an instant - or an infinitely small amount of time. The object theoretically has a velocity = 0 at the top. However, the ball does not remain stopped for any length of time at all... (or exactly 0 seconds.) For proof of this, read about the Intermediate Value Theorem, by the way... http://mcraefamily.com/MathHelp/CalculusTheorem1IntermediateValue.htm |
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Re: Gravity
From: bcreid83-ga on 29 Nov 2005 12:22 PST |
Just wanted to add one more thing... Only the vertical motion will stop. If the object has any horizontal motion, the horizontal motion will remain constant, but the vertical motion will still stop instantaneously. Hope that helps! |
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Re: Gravity
From: qed100-ga on 29 Nov 2005 13:39 PST |
If you toss an object up and it comes back down, then certainly at some point its upwards motion must stop and be replaced with downwards motion. If we restrict the problem to very close to sea level, so that we needn't be bothered with the complication of the strength of gravity growing weaker with altitude, then we can say the following: An object under the influence of gravity is under constant acceleration downwards. Even sitting still on a shelf, a baseball is perpetually accelerating downwards. (But, in this case, also being equally accelerated upwards by the shelf, so that the velocity remains constant.) If I project ("toss") the ball upwards, its downwards acceleration continues. It starts moving up at some velocity, but that up-velocity gets eaten away constantly by the opposing acceleration, which always increases its velocity in the opposite direction. So it starts out at some rate, and it steadily slows, approaching zero. Exactly how high it gets before actually reaching zero velocity depends on how fast it's going when it starts. But it does drop smoothly to zero and immediately reverses itself, starting from that point at zero and accumulating velocity as it returns. Ideally (meaning, with no complications, such as air resistance) the change in velocity coming down is an *exact* reversal of the velocity change on the way up. This means that you could play a movie of it going either way backwards and you couldn't tell the difference. |
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Re: Gravity
From: ansel001-ga on 30 Nov 2005 01:05 PST |
If is goes up fast enough, it will achieve escape velocity and not stop or come back down at all. Otherwise I would have to agree with bcreid83-ga. |
Subject:
Re: Gravity
From: quantummechanique-ga on 03 Dec 2005 04:12 PST |
I you throw a rock directly up with certain force, it continues to go upwards until gravity has slowed it down to zero. Then it drops back to ground with approximately same speed than it was thrown. For example if you throw a rock with starting speed of 9,81 m/s, and gravity pulls it downwards 9,81 m/s^2, it means that gravity deaccelerates speed of thrown rock to zero in one second. Then it starts to accelerate rock backwards to ground same time as it took to get up. After one second of free falling rock has speed of 9,81 m/s^2, which was same as starting speed. There is several presumptions in this example. First is that there is no other forces affecting to the rock like air resistance. Another is that the rock is thrown at ground level, so that rock falls as long time as it went up. |
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Re: Gravity
From: caesarib-ga on 10 Dec 2005 18:30 PST |
every object that thrown upwards freely will reach to a point at an instant where its velocity will be zero. when the velocity is zero then the object has no kinetic energy to beat the pulling of the gravity, also the potential energy of the object increases as it climbs upwards causing it to fall back. |
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Re: Gravity
From: caesarib-ga on 10 Dec 2005 18:34 PST |
every object that thrown upwards freely will reach to a point at an instant where its velocity will be zero. when the velocity is zero then the object has no kinetic energy to beat the pulling of the gravity, also the potential energy of the object increases as it climbs upwards. thus, increasing potential energy plus the weight cause the object to stop. |
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Re: Gravity
From: rapscallion-ga on 11 Dec 2005 10:17 PST |
I disagree with qed100's comment that "Even sitting still on a shelf, a baseball is perpetually accelerating downwards." Clearly it is not accelerating at all, as it has a constant velocity of zero. What qed100 means is that the force of gravity is perpetually pulling it downward. However the shelf is pushing upward, making no net force and hence, given F=ma, since F is zero then so is a. |
Subject:
Re: Gravity
From: scottyladd-ga on 12 Dec 2005 17:34 PST |
Thank you all very much for the comments. This is exactly where we all went with our debate. We could not, however, agree on the length of time the object was stopped. If it is stopped, as bcreid83 says, for 0 seconds, "However, the ball does not remain stopped for any length of time at all... (or exactly 0 seconds.)", and this is the other side of the argument, then can we not apply that same time interval, 0 seconds, to any part of the path of travel of the object, not just the apex, and see that the object has stopped? |
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Re: Gravity
From: rapscallion-ga on 13 Dec 2005 16:47 PST |
There is no mystery regarding the fact that an object thrown upward momentarily has zero vertical velocity during its parabolic arc. This is precisely the point where the graph of velocity versus time, which is a straight line, crosses the horizontal axis. Your last comment evokes the very old (several centuries B.C.) Zeno's Paradoxes concerning motion. Modern mathematics, especially real analysis, has resolved the philosophical dilemmas that troubled philosophers for so many centuries. The well-defined concepts of limits, continuity, etc., have been worked into a consistent and paradox-free framework. I would urge you to examine these topics. |
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