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The Third Isomorphism Theorem for Rings
Category: Science > Math Asked by: adorvis-ga List Price: $25.00 |
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30 Nov 2005 00:43 PST
Expires: 30 Dec 2005 00:43 PST Question ID: 599348 |
This is a very standard result of Ring Theory, but I'm having trouble with it and I would like some clarificaiton. Basically the result is that the Third (Second, if you prefer) Isomorphism Theorem tells us that we have a correspondence of Ideals between two rings R and S using a surjective ring homomorphism. Also however, there is a correspondence between prime ideals. This coorespondence of prime ideals is what I need help with. A clear explanation or a detailed (read: don't wave your hands) proof is all I need to understand the relationship. The two statements below are the precise statements of the problem. Note: f^-1(S) is the inverse image of f Let f:R->S be a surjective ring homomorphism of commutative rings. Prove or Explain: If I is a prime ideal of R such that I is contained in the Ker(f) then f(I) is a prime ideal. Prove or Explain: If J is a prime ideal of S then f^-1 is a prime ideal of R which contains the Ker(f). Further Note: The Second Isomorphism tells us that for a. f(I) is an ideal all you need to do is prove primeness. For b. the Second Isomorphism Theorem gives us the containment, all is needed is to prove primeness. I hope this is clear. If not, feel free to ask questions. |
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Re: The Third Isomorphism Theorem for Rings
From: berkeleychocolate-ga on 30 Nov 2005 21:05 PST |
The first question is poorly formulated. Any ideal or set contained in the kernel maps to {0}, which of course is a prime ideal. Change "contained in" to "contains". Then it becomes a non-trivial true statement. The image of an ideal I containing the kernel is an ideal. To show f[I] is prime is not hard: Take f(a) in f[I] (that is, a is in I) and f(b) in S. Then f(a)f(b)=f(ab) is in f(I) since ab is in I. Regarding the second question, the inverse image of any ideal J is an ideal I containing the kernel. This proof is straightforward. To show I is prime if J is, take a in I and b in R. Then f(a) is in J and so f(ab)=f(a)f(b) is in J. So ab is in I. |
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Re: The Third Isomorphism Theorem for Rings
From: adorvis-ga on 01 Dec 2005 11:31 PST |
That answered my question berkeleychocolate. If you will post that as an answer then I will give you credit for the question. |
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Re: The Third Isomorphism Theorem for Rings
From: berkeleychocolate-ga on 01 Dec 2005 12:47 PST |
Thanks, but unless google's policy has changed recently since I am not on the official answer list I can only make comments. By the way, my comment can be improved. It wasn't quite right. Here's the correction: That f[I] is an ideal follows since f(ab)=f(a)f(b), if a is in I then ab is in I as well. So since f(a) is in f(I), f(a)f(b) is in f(I) as well. Show f(I) is prime as follows: Given f(ab)=f(a)f(b) in f(I). We must show f(a) or f(b) is in f(I). So f(ab)=f(c) for some c in I. So abc^-1 is in kerf and therefore in I. Since I is prime, a or b or c^-1 is in I. If c^-1 is in I then so is ab since abc^-1 is in I. So again since I is prime, a or b is in I. So f(a) or f(b) is in f[I]. The correction of the second statement is similar but even easier: If ab is in f^-1[J], then f(ab)=f(a)f(b) is in J. Since J is prime, either f(a) or f(b) is in J. So a or b is in f^-1[J}. so f^-1[J] is prime. Hope this is clear. |
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