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Subject: Boolean Search String: What is the best search string to identify the following
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: bobcorbin-ga
List Price: $50.00
Posted: 30 Nov 2005 09:51 PST
Expires: 30 Dec 2005 09:51 PST
Question ID: 599525
I am looking to identify resumes that are on the internet of
Engineering Managers in the US only, who have an MSEE and work
experience in audio signal processing algorithms, expertise using
Matlab and a strong understanding of acoustic measurement techniques,
transducers and loudspeakers.

I am looking for the search string that will bring me back the most
targeted and accurate results and identify resumes,blogs,urls,web
pages and any other sources where I may find resumes posted to the
internet. Public information readily available is what I need.

Clarification of Question by bobcorbin-ga on 03 Dec 2005 17:41 PST
I am looking for a boolean string that will not bering me back JOBS or
JOB SITES.NOT JOBS is very inportant as it will elimate much of the
garbage links.

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 03 Dec 2005 18:28 PST
Your search is so specific:

--engineers

--managers

--US only

--MSEE

--audio signal processing experience

--MATLAB

--acoustic measurement

--transducers

--loudspeakers


that a search on all these terms will likely come up empty, or at
most, produce a handful of hits.

I've tried a few searches keeping things very focused on your terms.

Here's one search string that produces 70+ results, and is a mix of
resumes, job postings, and professional literature:


http://snipurl.com/kgtd



Here's another that is probably a little *too* focused, as it only
yields two results:


http://snipurl.com/kgtc



By dropping a few terms from this search, I could certainly loosen it
up...that may be the best bet for moving forward on your question.


Let me know how these look to you, and if I should post a few more
variants as an answer to your question.

On the other hand, if you're more interested in finding sites where
engineering professionals of all stripes post resumes, then let me
know and I'll see if I can uncover those.


Cheers,

pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by bobcorbin-ga on 03 Dec 2005 19:38 PST
I am looking for a boolean string that will not bring me back JOBS or
JOB SITES nor NON Masssachusetts RESUMES.  NOT JOBS is very inportant
as it will elimate much of the garbage links.MASSACHUSETTS is very
inportant to this search.

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 03 Dec 2005 19:45 PST
Massachusetts???  Where in heck does your question mention Massachusetts?

Just to be on the safe side...can you restate, as clearly as you can,
what sort of results you are seeking?

With a precise description, we have the best chance of being able to assist you.

Thanks,

pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by bobcorbin-ga on 04 Dec 2005 19:59 PST
Hello All, SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION!!! You were right, I did not
mention Massachusetts so lets stick to whay I asked for , the United
States will be fine. I would never rate someone poorly for my own
errors or stupidity...

HERE is what I am looking for in a boolean string:I need to identify
someone with as close to this background as possible.
I am looking to identify resumes that are on the internet of
Engineering Managers in the US only, who have an MSEE and work
experience in audio signal processing algorithms, expertise using
Matlab and a strong understanding of acoustic measurement techniques,
transducers and loudspeakers.

I am looking for the search string that will bring me back the most
targeted and accurate results and identify resumes,blogs,urls,web
pages and any other sources where I may find resumes posted to the
internet. Public information readily available is what I need.
 Clarification of Question by bobcorbin-ga on 03 Dec 2005 17:41 PST 
I am looking for a boolean string that will not bring me back JOBS or
JOB SITES.NOT JOBS is very inportant as it will elimate much of the
garbage links.

NOT JOBS or job links
--engineers or engineering manager

--managers

--US only

--MSEE

--audio signal processing experience

--MATLAB

--acoustic measurement

--transducers

--loudspeakers
-- Algorithms

Thanks for the help!
Bob

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 05 Dec 2005 07:27 PST
Bob,

The real challenge with this search is not coming up with an empty
set.  As I mentioned earlier, you have specified so many criteria,
that including all of them in a search string will produce very few --
if any -- hits.

Here's an attempt at a targeted search that returns a reasonable
number of results, with a pretty sharp focus on engineers with
relevant experience, and a bare minimum of non-resume hits:


://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2005-45%2CGGLG%3Aen&q=-jobs+%28msee+OR+ee+OR+%22electrical+engineer%22%29+%28manager+OR+managing+OR+management%29+%28audio+OR+signal%29+acoustic++%28intitle%3Aresume+OR+inurl%3Aresume%29


Have a look, and let me know what you think.


paf

Request for Question Clarification by czh-ga on 05 Dec 2005 10:45 PST
Hello bobcorbin-ga,

Based on your participation in the Sourcers Unleashed forum I see that
you?re a very experienced recruiter who is involved with a tough
recruiting assignment. Your question here seems aimed at identifying
passive job candidates for a very specialized field. I?ve experimented
with a variety of search strings trying to come up with the extremely
targeted results you seek and I?ve been disappointed with the results.
My searching shows that using broader (rather than extremely refined)
search terms brings better results. Granted, you will have to
interpret the results because resumes from people who look like
excellent candidates may not show the exact search terms you?ve
specified.

As you well know, the chief problem is that searching for resumes
tends to bring up job postings instead. The difficulty is trying to
identify people who currently hold the jobs that you?re trying to
fill. The problem is to locate where these people might congregate or
reveal their capabilities and interests. I believe this is why you?ve
included looking at ?blogs, urls, web pages and any other sources.?
What you?re looking for is not necessarily a resume posting. It may be
a discussion of a project or a request for help that reveals that the
individual posting in a blog or discussion group is a likely candidate
for the positions you?re trying to fill.

Your response to prior clarifications and comments seems to say that
those suggestions are not satisfactory. I hope that my suggestions
might be useful. I?d love to help you with your ultimate goals. I look
forward to your clarification.

~ czh ~

Clarification of Question by bobcorbin-ga on 05 Dec 2005 18:44 PST
~ czh ~ Hello, Thanks for your comments.For some searches going
through volumes of resumes may make sense. In this case I need to
narrow it down to a reasonable number of prospects with an extremely
tight skill set.

I am looking for a resume but urls, blogs and other postings may also
lead me to the right person. Just as identifying relevant companies in
the audio or acoustics field will draw me closer to the right person.

I am seeking a very hard to find combination of skills and I know that
the right boolean string or strings will help me to narrow it down to
a manageable number of 'qualified' people to network with and
hopefully identify the right person for this position.

~ czh ~I do believe that your answer in theory will bring me broader
reults but broad is not what I need , I need just one qualified person
that meets the skill set and is interested in the position.The boolean
string that narrows the talent base down for me is what I really need!

As you know, I believe Boolean Searches are a way to go and do the
identification. I am not an expert nor do I profess to have alot of
knowledge in doing Boolean searches. That is why I come to the
'experts' here on Google. I know someone will identify that string and
when that person does I will then have a person to go forward with as
I do a hundred of these a year. I am looking for the' source or tool
to help me with recruiting. I do believe you can show me the best
results so lets see the answer.

Thanks for the help!
Bob

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 06 Dec 2005 05:38 PST
Bob,

I'm not sure you saw the note I posted a few days ago (just prior to
the note from czh-ga).  Please have a look at these search results:




://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2005-45%2CGGLG%3Aen&q=-jobs+%28msee+OR+ee+OR+%22electrical+engineer%22%29+%28manager+OR+managing+OR+management%29+%28audio+OR+signal%29+acoustic++%28intitle%3Aresume+OR+inurl%3Aresume%29



and let me know if they meet your needs.


paf
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Subject: Re: Boolean Search String: What is the best search string to identify the following
From: jadayu-ga on 02 Dec 2005 22:55 PST
 
I elicited a resume as the first link on the following search on google:

US resume  experienced engineering  MSEE audio signal processing measurement.


The Link:

://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=US+resume++experienced+engineering++MSEE+audio+signal+processing+measurement+&btnG=Search

the first link:
http://www.stvraintech.com/jim.htm
Jim Gilbert 
Manager/Consultant for St. Vrain Technologies, LLC 


Kindly note that the majority of links that is being thrown up are job
board?s advertisements, and consultants.

Hope this helps you.

Regards
Subject: Re: Boolean Search String: What is the best search string to identify the follow
From: cynthia-ga on 03 Dec 2005 15:37 PST
 
Try this:
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=resume+%22Engineering+Manager%22++OR+engineer+AND+manager++%22audio+signal%22+algorithms+Matlab&btnG=Search
Subject: Re: Boolean Search String: What is the best search string to identify the follow
From: cynthia-ga on 04 Dec 2005 05:14 PST
 
bobcorbin,

Even the best search string is likely to have _some_ duff to sift
through, and pafalafa is right, nowhere in your original question is
Massachusetts mentioned, only "US only."

This is quite common, and I'm glad we know now. What usually happens
is a Researcher will lock the question, answer it as stated, then get
a poor rating, and are expected to REDO the research because we didn't
know (we don't read minds!) that you wanted resumes specific to
Massachusetts.

At least that won't happen here! However, please for the sake of
clarity, list the most important factors you want the results to
include.
Subject: Re: Boolean Search String: What is the best search string to identify the following
From: bobcorbin-ga on 05 Dec 2005 18:23 PST
 
~ czh ~ Hello, Thanks for your comments and for some searches going
through volumes of resumes may make sense. In this case I need to
narrow it down to a reasonable number of prospects with an extremely
tight skill set.

I am looking for a resume but urls, blogs and other postings may also
lead me to the right person. Just as identifying relevant companies in
the audio or acoustics field will draw me closer to the right person.

I am seeking a very hard to find combination of skills and I know that
the right boolean string or strings will help me to narrow it down to
a manageable number of 'qualified' people to network with and
hopefully identify the right person for this position.
Subject: Re: Boolean Search String: What is the best search string to identify the following
From: bobcorbin-ga on 05 Dec 2005 18:33 PST
 
~ czh ~ Hello, Thanks for your comments and for some searches going
through volumes of resumes may make sense. In this case I need to
narrow it down to a reasonable number of prospects with an extremely
tight skill set.

I am looking for a resume but urls, blogs and other postings may also
lead me to the right person. Just as identifying relevant companies in
the audio or acoustics field will draw me closer to the right person.

I am seeking a very hard to find combination of skills and I know that
the right boolean string or strings will help me to narrow it down to
a manageable number of 'qualified' people to network with and
hopefully identify the right person for this position.

~ czh ~I do believe that your answer in theory will bring me broader
reults but broad is not what I need , I need just one qualified person
that meets the skill set and is interested in the position.

As you know, I believe Boolean Searches are a way to go and do the
identification. I am not an expert nor do I profess to have alot of
knowledge in doing Boolean searches. That is why I come to the
'experts' here on Google. I know someone will identify that string and
when that person does I will then ghave a person to go forward with as
I do a hundred of these a year. I am looking for the' source or tool
to help me with recruiting. I do believe you can show me the best
results so lets see the answer.

Thanks for the help!
Bob
Subject: Re: Boolean Search String: What is the best search string to identify the follow
From: cynthia-ga on 06 Dec 2005 00:12 PST
 
The most logical string brought up one result. I bet it's your
company's recruiting ad:
http://www.job-super-search.com/job/14256377/AudioSignal-Processing-Engineer---Advanced-Development.html

I'm betting it's your ad because Massasachutts was NOT in my string,
and yet the posting IS...
Subject: Re: Boolean Search String: What is the best search string to identify the following
From: bobcorbin-ga on 06 Dec 2005 04:04 PST
 
Cynthia, Nice job finding the AD...now I need candidates. I bet we
have that posted on Monster Board also..lol

Thanks

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