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Subject: water in classical art
Category: Arts and Entertainment
Asked by: teytan-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 30 Nov 2005 18:40 PST
Expires: 30 Dec 2005 18:40 PST
Question ID: 599777
I'm looking for a list of the most recognizable well known great
images, objects and paintings of the art world (of all times) ? that are
water related (sea, river, ocean, wave, vessel, cloud, snow etc...)
I need a central list with images of this sort. This is for a presentation. Most
important is that all work (painting, sculpture, architechture,
design) would  be recognized as an art object or painting that the
average educated person has seen multiple times before(masterpieces by
famous artists, famous icons of culture)and include water in some
form. Oftentimes these art objects, crafts of ancient civilizations or
paintings are the classical representation of a genre or era. Already
have done extensive research and found familiar images. Familiar with
waterhistory.org and others, but am looking for new goldmine. Example
of a good image: Waterhouse,
Hylas and the Nymphs, water lilies by Monet, Mona Lisa by Da Vinci.

Request for Question Clarification by answerfinder-ga on 01 Dec 2005 00:40 PST
Dear teytan-ga,
To avoid duplication, it would be helpful to know which images you
have found already. Also, what size do these images need to be? How
many are you looking for? Finally, is this a US audience? I'm in the
UK so an audience here may be more familiar with sea-scapes by Turner
and the Dutch maritime artists than perhaps a US audience. The more
information, the better the results of the research.
answerfinder-ga

Clarification of Question by teytan-ga on 01 Dec 2005 15:48 PST
Dear answerfinder-ga,
1. Images I have found are the following (not all are as well known as
I would like to have):
 
Ingres, Jean-Auguste-Dominique
The Turkish Bath 

Delacroix, Eugène The Sea of Galilee 
(60 Kb); Walters Art Gallery at Baltimore

John William Waterhouse
Hylas and the Nymphs
A Mermaid 
 
Renoir, Pierre-Auguste 
Seated Bather 
Water Lily Pool, 1900

Claude Monet
Water Lilies
 
Tomas Moran, Cascading Water
 
Winslow Homer
Weatherbeaten, 1894
 
John Constable
 
Young Woman with a Water Pitcher, ca. 1662
Johannes Vermeer

Frank Lloyd Wright
Fallingwater House
  
Edward  Hopper Ground Swell 
 
Winslow  Homer
"Hudson River" - Logging 
 
Paul Gauguin
Papa moe, 1893-1894
 
Paul Klee Boats and Cliffs 1927

2. Size of images doesn't matter

3.Audience if US based but educated and well travelled.

Thanks - looking forward to hearing from you.

Clarification of Question by teytan-ga on 01 Dec 2005 15:52 PST
dear myoarin-ga,

In the Mona Lisa the water is not so important, but since the image is
so very famous, and includes water, it is good for this list.
Otherwise, water should be important: a depiction of water, or any of
its' forms: steam, ice, snow, fountain, geyser, wave, cloud, pool,
bath, vessel etc. The best are ones when it is just the image of water
itself, but can also be people by water, people bathing, ships on
water etc. Main thing is the fact that the image/art object is also
recognizable and well known. Thanks!
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Subject: Re: water in classical art
From: myoarin-ga on 01 Dec 2005 09:28 PST
 
This will be an interesting project for someone.
Since that bit of water in the distance behind Mona Lisa seems to
count, perhaps we need some finer definition.  Water just in its place
in nature?  Or also in an interior situation?  And how important to
the theme of the piece should water be?
(Doesn't seem very important in Mona Lisa)
Subject: Re: water in classical art
From: myoarin-ga on 01 Dec 2005 20:30 PST
 
Teytan,
This is less than half the exercise since you want images, and I have
been just browsing Google Images for ideas, but the images themselves
may be inadequate.  And in some cases, I have just named themes or
artists with the hope that you could then better choose items that you
feel are well enough recognized.

Winslow Homer:  Breezing up a fair, The gulf stream, and many others

Bather OR bath, also Rodin?s Bather (but there is a limit to how many you need)

September Morn by Paul Chabas 

Katsushika Hokusai The Great Wave  (famous Japanese Woodcut artist)

Boticelli?s Venus (on the half-shell)

JMW Turner?s many seascapes, also paintings of London and Venice

Venice, Canaletto 

casper david friedrich  (German artist of several pictures with sea or ice or snow)

The little Mermaid statue (in Copenhagen.  Didn?t find her or really look)

Gustave Courbet,  The Source,  Stormy Sea (aka The Wave)

Ingres, La Source

Lucas Cranach; Nymph at the Source

Pieter Bruegel, the elder, Winter Landscape with a Bird Trap  (skating scene)

Edvard Munch, Summer Night at the Beach, Young Girl on a Jetty, The Scream,
And others

Fountains:   of Trivi, in the Garden of Villa d?Este and many others
in Italy and elsewhere, Mennekin Pis in Brussels, the Lion Fountain in
the Alhambra in Spain,

Neptune, fountains, and paintings

Thomas Eakin,  The Biglin Brothers turning the Stake  (rowing in
Philadelphia), and other rowing paintings

N C Wyeth?s illustrations, maybe not so classic, but well recognized 

Claude Monet?s paintings of the Houses of Parliament with the Thames and fog.
(one found with search on FOG)

Gustave Doré, The Flood, 

Water temples in Japan and one on Bali

http://jossefordart.typepad.com/art_journeys_and_conversa/2005/01/
scroll down to Peter Paul Rubens?s ?The Union of Earth and Water?

Lionel Feininger did some paintings with sailing vessels, but I didn?t find one.


I feel a lot has still been missed.  Please don?t close the question
without giving a Researcher a chance to help you with pinning down
images or expanding on the selection.

Regards, Myoarin
Subject: Re: water in classical art
From: pinkfreud-ga on 01 Dec 2005 20:55 PST
 
Here's a famous one: Géricault's "The Raft of the Medusa."

http://www.answers.com/topic/the-raft-of-the-medusa
Subject: Re: water in classical art
From: teytan-ga on 01 Dec 2005 21:53 PST
 
Dear myoarin-ga,
Thank you - I will have a look at the titles you've sent.
You are right probably many have been missed. The famous japanese wave
is a really good one - perhaps the best example for what I am looking
for, as anybody would recognise that one, has seen it somewhere, on a
postcard, poster etc...
I am looking for a site or sites which could offer such a list.
Otherwise I think what's missing are also objects which are not
necessarily paintings (installations, sculpture, ancient objects of
cultures, architecture)
All in all I am hoping to have 50 titles. The best would be as
mentioned, a site which offers lists. But would be also happy with
more titles.
Subject: Re: water in classical art
From: answerfinder-ga on 02 Dec 2005 01:48 PST
 
I?m sure about 50 but here?s a few more. There's plenty of Dutch /
English marine paintings but they may not necessarily be famous. The
sea as a subject did not really become popular until post-Reformation.
You could also consider some Egyptian wall paintings of fishing on the
Nile, and Greek vases showing ships.
 
Boating on the Seine, RENOIR, Pierre-Auguste
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cgi-bin/WebObjects.dll/CollectionPublisher.woa/wa/work?workNumber=NG6478

Bathers at La Grenouillère, MONET, Claude-Oscar
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cgi-bin/WebObjects.dll/CollectionPublisher.woa/wa/work?workNumber=NG6456

The Thames below Westminster, MONET, Claude-Oscar
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cgi-bin/WebObjects.dll/CollectionPublisher.woa/wa/work?workNumber=NG6399

The Water-Lily Pond, MONET, Claude-Oscar
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cgi-bin/WebObjects.dll/CollectionPublisher.woa/wa/work?workNumber=NG4240

Bathers at Asnières, SEURAT, Georges
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cgi-bin/WebObjects.dll/CollectionPublisher.woa/wa/work?workNumber=ng3908

The Fighting Temeraire, TURNER, Joseph Mallord William
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cgi-bin/WebObjects.dll/CollectionPublisher.woa/wa/work?workNumber=ng524

Garden at Sainte-Adresse, Claude Monet 
http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_of_Art/viewOne.asp?dep=11&viewmode=0&item=67.241

Birth of Venus, Sandro Filipepi called Botticelli
http://www.virtualuffizi.com/uffizi/img/878.jpg

The Miraculous Draft of Fishes. Tapestry. Design by Raphael, 1516.
http://www.metmuseum.org/special/Tapestry/renaissance_more.htm

Trajan?s Column - ship at sea
http://cheiron.humanities.mcmaster.ca/~trajan/images/med/2.7.m.jpg

Bayeaux Tapestry - the invasion
http://www.bayeuxtapestry.org.uk/Bayeux18.htm

The Nymph Galatea, Raphael
http://keptar.demasz.hu/arthp/html/r/raphael/z_other/galatea.htm

Steamer in a Snowstorm, J.M.W. Turner
http://www.iit.edu/~misa/102/images/turner_steamer.html

Sailing Boats, Lyonel Feininger
http://www.nelepets.com/art/artists/f/Feininger-c.htm

New York Metropolitan Musuem
Search> water, sea, river, 
http://www.metmuseum.org/home.asp

National gallery, London
Also use the search terms: water, sea, river, bathing etc.

Bathing and Boating
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cgi-bin/WebObjects.dll/CollectionPublisher.woa/wa/collection?collectionName=%27Bathing%20and%20Boating%27%201800%2D1900

Uffizi Gallery Florence
http://www.virtualuffizi.com/uffizi/roomsidx.htm
Subject: Re: water in classical art
From: myoarin-ga on 02 Dec 2005 07:19 PST
 
Carry on, Answerfinder!

Bridges:  Golden Gate, Sydney Harbour, Brooklyn, London Tower, the
first iron bridge (in England, you'll know the one), Bridge of Sighs,
Venice; similar bridge in Oxford, Mathematical Bridge in Cambridge,
Rialto, Venice; Pont Neuf, Paris; The Allahverdi-khan Bridge 
(Safavidian, in Isfahan), that one in former Yugoslavia that has been
rebuilt, Roman bridges (and aquaducts), canal bridges such as this one
(but probably not well known):
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://norman.walsh.name/2000/09/images/bridge.jpg&imgrefurl=http://norman.walsh.name/2000/09/images/bridge.html&h=1348&w=1035&sz=221&tbnid=_c8h6AYMCikJ:&tbnh=150&tbnw=115&hl=en&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcanal%2Bbridge%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26c2coff%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG

Canals:  Suez, Panama, Canal Grande, Canal du Midi, Corinth, ...

Nilometer:  http://www.waterhistory.org/histories/cairo/    (too esoteric?)

Christo, Surrounded Island, 1983:  http://www.arteearte.it/aut/J.Christo/ISLAND.JPG
PHOTO:  http://www.regina-rau.de/Deutsch/Art_Seit/G-I_Ch_Island.html

Rivers, Islands, fjords?:  
Seine and Ile de la cité.  Here is a nice photo by Henri Cartier Bresson:
http://leblogdegab.canalblog.com/archives/2005/03/ 

Mont Saint Michel

I am running out of ideas.  If you need some more classical artists: 
Susanna bathing and the Elders by Tintoretto and Rembrandt:
http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/t/tintoret/4mytholo/susanna.html
http://www.artchive.com/artchive/R/rembrandt/susanna.jpg.html

OH, this is another Japanese woodprint, Bridge:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.castlefinearts.com/userUpload/HasuiPosth1761.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.castlefinearts.com/Japanese_fine_arts_woodblock_prints/Kawase_Hasui_Posthumous.aspx%3FcatID%3D%26Page%3D5&h=700&w=461&sz=166&tbnid=WICA7KOGk90J:&tbnh=138&tbnw=90&hl=en&start=139&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbrdige%26start%3D120%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26c2coff%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN

CHeers, Myoarin

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