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Subject: FRAUD OR GENUINE COMPANY IN INDONESIA
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: crystalt1-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 01 Dec 2005 04:01 PST
Expires: 31 Dec 2005 04:01 PST
Question ID: 599941
ABSOLUT DREAM INC. JOGJAKARTA, INDONESIA ARE THEY A RELIABLE ELECTRONICS
COMPANY TO PURCHASE ORIGINAL 65 INCH PANASONIC PLASMA TV'S OR OTHER
ELECTRONICS ?  ANY RECORDS OF FRAUD WITH THIS COMPANY?
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Subject: Re: FRAUD OR GENUINE COMPANY IN INDONESIA
Answered By: answerfinder-ga on 01 Dec 2005 06:47 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear crystalt1-ga,

I have conducted research on this web site and company and once you
have read the below information, you may well take the same view as me
that it would be advisable NOT to enter into any business dealings
with them.

I should add that I am a retired New Scotland Yard Fraud Squad Officer
so I can draw on a great deal of experience.

Fraudsters ask for Wire Transfer, Telegraphic Transfer or Western
Union payments as these cannot be stopped or easily traced, especially
when sent to countries such as Indonesia where corruption is rife,
money laundering regulations lax, and to mount an investigation to
find any lost money is nigh on impossible.

There is a distinct lack of information on this company on the
internet. Apart from their own web site, there are very few other
references to them and these are only on product directories or a
message board with unfavourable comments about them.

The company describes itself as Inc. However, companies in Indonesia
have the suffix PT or Tbk.

?The main form of business organization for medium and large-scale
private enterprises in Indonesia is the limited liability company,
namely, the "Perseroan Terbatas" or "PT". If the limited liability
company is public, it is known as a "Perseroan Terbuka" or "Tbk".?
http://www.insolvencyasia.com/insolvency_law_regimes/indonesia/section_a.html


Next, their web site.
http://www.absolutdream.biz/

Their contact details are given as:
 
Absolut Dream Inc.
Head Office
ABSOLUTDREAM.Inc
Jl. Malioboro No.49
Jogjakarta
DIJ-55223
INDONESIA
Phone :  62 (274) 58182734
Fax   :  62 (274) 52032837
Costumer Services : info@absolutdream.biz

I can find no information to corroborate that they are based at this
address or use these telephone numbers.

A business directory lists them with a slightly different telephone
number, but this may be a mistype. The name of Stephen Felix is
supplied. I cannot identify this person.
http://www.alibaba.com/member/absolutdreaminc/companyprofile.html

You will see that they state that they have 101-500 employees, and an
Annual Sales Range (USD) of US$50 Million - US$100 Million. This is
remarkable for a company with such a small internet presence.

I should add that anyone can place their company details on this
directory. There is no vetting procedure.


Returning to their web site, many of the paragraphs on their
introduction page are taken from a genuine web site - with alterations
made for the company name. The site belongs to Ho Chien Electronic
Group, Inc. based in California. They are registered in California and
are a genuine company.

Absolut Dream
?Our business is focused to provide the highest quality of electronic
with the lower increase in cost. We pay close attention to quality
managements in every level of operation and are dedicated to quality
and excellence in providing new ideas, solutions, and alternatives.?
http://www.absolutdream.biz/

Ho Chien
?Our business is focused to provide the highest quality of parts with
the minimal increase in cost. We pay close attention to quality
managements in every level of operation and are dedicated to quality
and excellence in providing new ideas, solutions, and alternatives.?
http://www.hochien.com/connector-profile.html

Absolut Dream
?Established in 2001 Absolut Dream. Inc has reached global recognition
and success. Our products are distributed in many parts of Asia And
Europe, Absolut Dream. Inc Was established in 2002 to service in the
Europe, including eastern Europe. We are a company mixed with
experience and young talent combining traditional and cutting edge
ideas.?
http://www.absolutdream.biz/

Ho Chien
?Established in 1979, Ho Chien has reached global recognition and
success. Our products are distributed in many parts of Europe, Asia,
Africa and North America. Ho Chien Electronics Group, Inc. was
established in 1995 to service the North Amercian market, including
Canada and Mexico. We are a company mixed with experience and young
talent combining traditional and cutting edge ideas.? 
http://www.hochien.com/connector-profile.html

Absolut Dream
?Looking fowards the future, Absolut Dream. Inc is strategically
positioned for growth and expansion. We will continue our standard of
quality and excellence by maintaining awareness of new developments
and needs of People.?
http://www.absolutdream.biz/

Ho Chien
?Looking towards the future, Ho Chien is strategically positioned for
growth and expansion. We will continue our standard of quality and
excellence by maintaining awareness of new developments and needs of
the industry, as well as needs of emerging industires.?
http://www.hochien.com/connector-profile.html

The remainder of the paragraphs and words not copied are poorly drafted. 

A domain name registration check reveals the following. Searches show
that this appears to be a genuine person. It is my opionion their
details may have been hi-jacked. The domain was first registered on
2005-10-04, and this current registration commenced 03.07.2005.

Registrant Name:                             CHRISTOPHER REYNOLDS
Registrant Organization:                     CHRISTOPHER REYNOLDS
Registrant Address1:                         3130 OXBOW PL.
Registrant City:                             SOLVANG
Registrant State/Province:                   CA
Registrant Postal Code:                      93463
Registrant Country:                          United States
Registrant Country Code:                     US
Registrant Phone Number:                     +1.8056931993
Registrant Email:                            yoerke@yahoo.com
Domain Registration Date:                    Sun Jul 03 18:23:09 GMT 2005
Domain Expiration Date:                      Sun Jul 02 23:59:59 GMT 2006
http://www.whois.sc/absolutdream.biz


There is no record in the Wayback search engine of the Internet archive.
http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.absolutdream.biz


There a brief discussion on this forum about Absolut Dream and the
opinion is that it is a fraud.
http://www.thewholesaleforums.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php/t-1880.html


Finally, you see how few references there are to the company on Google and Yahoo.
"ABSOLUT DREAM inc"
://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22ABSOLUT+DREAM+inc%22&btnG=Search&meta=
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22ABSOLUT+DREAM+inc%22&sm=Yahoo%21+Search&fr=FP-tab-web-t&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8


So, in summary:
Very little information for a company supposedly in existence since 2001.
Wrong suffix for the company.
Wording for web site copied from another genuine site.
Payment by an untraceable method.


I hope this answers your question. If it does not, or the answer is
unclear, then please ask for clarification of this research before
rating the answer. I shall respond to the clarification request as
soon as I receive it.
Thank you
answerfinder


As a postscript, here are some fraud prevention tips from a business web site: 

Avoid T/T (Telegraphic Transfer), Western Union. These two wiring
payment services were conducted by banks (Telegraphic Transfer) or
credit agencies(Western Union). They are being used for so long
because of its simplicity.

The main disadvantage is that the real owner of the account cannot be identified. 

For example, your business partner, who you might not have met before
created a dummy account and asked you to wire the money to this
account. After you have sent the money, he/she can run away with your
money and you cannot trace your business partner again.

If your business partner insists on making payment via these type of
method, please be cautious and alert.

Most of the attempted frauds reported to us are related to Telegraphic
Transfer or Western Union. Victims usually complained about:- After a
deal has been agreed upon and the money has been sent out, the person
who received the money was disappear and the money cannot be traced.
It is very difficult to get your money back if fraud is unfortunately
happened.
http://ckw19.gm11.b2bquote.com/b2bquote/b2bFraudTips.htm
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