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Estimate the height of the atmosphere
Category: Science > Physics Asked by: dana17-ga List Price: $3.00 |
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02 Dec 2005 15:34 PST
Expires: 01 Jan 2006 15:34 PST Question ID: 600703 |
The density of air is 1.3 kg / m3 at sea level. From your knowledge of air pressure at ground level, estimate the height of the atmosphere. As a simplifying assumption, take the atmosphere to be of uniform density up to some height, after which the density rapidly falls to zero. (In reality, the density of the atmosphere decreases as we go up.) Height is in km. |
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Re: Estimate the height of the atmosphere
Answered By: hedgie-ga on 03 Dec 2005 02:38 PST |
Dana Why would you want take a square root? If you have column of gas of uniform density D with height h and area of column A, then weight is W= mass * g = volume *D *g = A * h * D *g and weight/A is the pressure So, h would be your 'height in km' IF the case would be realistic. At most, you could stick factor of 2 somewhere (assume that pressure goes from max to 0) and 'average is 1/2 of P0' where P0 is atmospheric pressure at the Earth surface, but your problem says 'assume uniform' density and that means uniform pressure too. In reality, profile is is given by barometric formula, as explained here: .. most of the atmosphere is below 100 km (99.9999%) although in the rarified region above this there are auroras, and other atmospheric effects. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth's_atmosphere#Thickness_of_the_atmosphere Normally, I would not suggest 'homework answer', but the 'helpful comment' and really silly, confusing, problem you were given, is more than any young person deserves - so ... So, to do at least some work, you should read the whole article given above and references (and do not argue with the teacher :-) Hedgie |
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Re: Estimate the height of the atmosphere
From: iang-ga on 02 Dec 2005 15:41 PST |
Homework? Ian G. |
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Re: Estimate the height of the atmosphere
From: dana17-ga on 02 Dec 2005 21:05 PST |
I just need some help/direction. I was trying to use h =(1.01X10^5)/(1.3kg/m^3)*(9.8)and then take the square root of h but I believe its not the right answer and I'm stuck and need some help. |
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Re: Estimate the height of the atmosphere
From: mdaspp-ga on 03 Dec 2005 01:42 PST |
Looks like you're nearly there, although I don't think the square root is correct (the answer you want is h, taking the square root would give the wrong units). I assume you've used Bernoulli's equation, which simplifies rather nicely for this problem. It's best that you figure out velocities and pressures if you haven't already (they're common-sense). Hints: velocities - atmosphere is essentially in static equilibrium; pressures - you've got sea-level pressure, so what's the pressure at the "end" of the atmosphere (in space)? Actually the number you should get isn't very accurate, as noted, and in fact the pressure at that height is still around a third of sea-level pressure, due to the reduced density at lower pressures. |
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