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Subject:
WWII German Uniform
Category: Relationships and Society > Cultures Asked by: elidb-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
04 Dec 2005 08:11 PST
Expires: 03 Jan 2006 08:11 PST Question ID: 601246 |
Please identify the rank and military unit of the man in the picture: http://www.ebholding.com/media/GermanySmall.jpg (about 18K) http://www.ebholding.com/media/Germany.jpg (about 1.8MB) During WWII, the man in the picture was in Split, Yugoslavia. What is the likely role played by his unit? | |
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Re: WWII German Uniform
From: myoarin-ga on 04 Dec 2005 14:24 PST |
I beg to differ with Politicalguru. From these sites, it appears that the rank is that of 1st lieutenant or captain. Field grade officers had braid in their shoulder boards. Looking at his right shoulder, it appears that there is only one "star" = 1st lieutenant/Oberleutnant: http://www.nuav.net/SS-insignia.html http://www.packrat-toyz.com/Reference/heer.htm Myoarin |
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Re: WWII German Uniform
From: myoarin-ga on 05 Dec 2005 03:14 PST |
Eli, You are right, if you see the thing on his shoulder more as a square or diamond-shape, it should be (see the links). I did too, wondering if it had twisted. The bullseye doesn't mean anything - I believe - except that he wasn't in an SS division. There don't seem to be any insignia that can can identify a division. I am wondering if the photo was an ID or portrait made before he was assigned to a division. |
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Re: WWII German Uniform
From: zemlyanbob-ga on 19 Dec 2005 19:54 PST |
The individual pictured was most likely in the Wehrmacht, and more specifically, das Heer (the Army) - which seems pretty certain. As to his rank: His shoulder boards are made up of soutache braids (sometimes called Russia braids). The braids have metallic threads in the form of a 'V,' with a depression down the center giving the impression of two braids on each board. This was typical of Basic Officers of the Wehrmacht. A higher ranking Officer would have different shoulder boards. For instance: A Company-Grade Officer, such as a Hauptmann (Captain), would have a shoulder board consisting of two braids attached to the underlay parallel to each other, giving the impression of eight individual strands. Field-Grade Officers would have two parallel rows of Russia braid on an underlay, but the braid is interwoven or braided. There are five 'bends' or 'loops' on each side of the board, and a loop at the top for the button. General Officers would have three interwoven cords, the outer two being a round gold bullion (later Celleon) cord and the center a silver or aluminum flat soutache braid. There are four loops on each side of the board, and one at the top for the button. It is therefore apparant that the individual pictured is a junior officer, most likely an Oberleutnant since at least one diamond is present, and were he a Hauptmann, his shoulder board would likely have looked different. The ability to view the shoulder board from above would have resulted in my ability to determine the unit. I apologise that I am unable to assist you in that area. |
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Re: WWII German Uniform
From: ficsh-ga on 30 Jun 2006 13:33 PDT |
i was unable to look at the pic thoroughly.. but on the other hand i could see the cap and the insignia on the right chest side is the luftwaffe (airforce) this was a piolet in the Nazi German Army in the time span of 1939-1944..the Luftwaffe was extremly weakend by the british and the american forces he was well respected and was not a caption but a lutenet by the stance he is faced to the camera left shoulder first so there for is a lutenett cuz captians were posed shoulders even but what do i know i am just a person that has german ancestors that faught in the war and probally in the same division as this man in the pic my family is over extended and so i know a lot of german history but i agree with the first gentlemen on where he was located and his regiment |
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