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Subject: College GPA
Category: Reference, Education and News > Education
Asked by: who3ver-ga
List Price: $60.00
Posted: 05 Dec 2005 00:28 PST
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Question ID: 601521
Hi, I'm trying to figure out what the best course of action is for
someone that wants to go back to college but does not want to transfer
the GPA or credits to the new school.  The person graduated HS in 96,
started college in 96 (Part time).  In 2000 she dropped out with
around 50 credits and a GPA of 2.2 (4 scale)

-	She wants to start college at the age of 27 without transferring the
credits because of the bad GPA, is it possible?  Are there schools
that agree on not accepting credits/GPA from previous schools or are
they legally bound to incorporating said GPA/Credits into the
student's new transcripts? 

I do understand that Google Answers can not provide me with legal
advise.  I just need your opinion.  

Thanks

Request for Question Clarification by politicalguru-ga on 05 Dec 2005 14:16 PST
Dear Who3ver, 

I am sending a few emails to be certain that it is possible, and I
would let you know. I only have few questions:
- Is this person aware, that if the college agrees to disregard
previous achievements, that would also mean that she would have to
start all over again - the credits would not count?
- Is there any geographical area she is interested in (for the college, that is)? 
- Would a distance learning college, which is accredited, be OK?

Clarification of Question by who3ver-ga on 06 Dec 2005 04:55 PST
Dear Politicalguru, 

Thank you for paying attention to this question.  

- She is aware she would have to start over
- NYC/Northern New Jersey
- Acredited distance learning programs are a second option

Request for Question Clarification by politicalguru-ga on 08 Dec 2005 11:33 PST
only a small update: I already have some strategies based on policies,
but I have written to an additional number of colleges in the
designated area and am awaiting their response.

Clarification of Question by who3ver-ga on 08 Dec 2005 21:40 PST
Thank you for your follow up.  I appreciate your effort.
Answer  
Subject: Re: College GPA
Answered By: politicalguru-ga on 15 Dec 2005 09:09 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear Who3ver,


Your friend can choose between several options. If she?s adamant
regarding not disclosing her previous academic record, there are
several colleges that would let her start again with a „clean
slate“, that is, without her having to disclose her previous
record. However, only few colleges offer this option. Most colleges
would like to see a transcript in any case, and advise that she'd
either:

    * write a letter, as part of her application, stating the
circumstances (which is, basically, the fact that she was young at the
time of her first round at college, and now she's mature, ready to
face the academic responsibilities, etc.)

    * request an interview; in general, in those cases, the former GPA
is not considered – only the GPA she'll achieve at the new
college she's applied to.
    
* OR: go to a community college for a year or two, and apply again as
a transfer student from the community college.


I have written to about a hundred academic institutions in the area
you've mentioned in your clarification. Unfortunately, not all have
responded, but these are sample of the the results from those who did:


Students can start with a clean slate
=====================================

„Absolutely. We welcome the chance to afford a student the
opportunity to succeed.  Please let your client know that he/she
should set up an appointment with one of our admissions counselors to
discuss his/her program of study and the admissions process.  The
phone number to schedule an appointment is 631-244-3303. „

Dowling College -

http://www.dowling.edu


„Yes, we do accept transfer students and do not consider their
previous academic history in admission to our Adult Degree Program. 
As long as they possess a high school degree they can apply online at
http://www.caldwell.edu/adult-admissions/ „

Caldwell College



Students can add a letter to the application committee

---------------------------------------------------------------


„Unfortunately,
students do not have to option to begin as a freshman if they have
attended a previous institution. However with your client's application
I would suggest an essay (even though we don't require it from transfer
students) to explain why she feels she would be a successful Hofstra
student, her future goals, etc. I often recommend this for returning
adult students so the Admissions Committee has a bit more to use when
rendering a decision.

To apply she may do so at www.hofstra.edu  She would need to send in
her transcripts from all previously attended colleges for us to render a
decision. Although she can't exclude her college information on her
application, please note that once a student is admitted and  transfer
credits are evaluated, only the credits transfer not the grades. „

Hostra University

<http://www.hofstra.edu >


Students can show improvement by attending a community college

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


&#8222;While it is not possible to enroll with a "clean slate", your
client may want to consider attending a community college in order to
build up her GPA and show improvement. After that is accomplished, she
may apply to The College of New Rochelle and have a greater chance of
gaining admittance into the school. &#8222;

College of New Rochelle

<http://www.cnr.edu >


&#8222;We require official transcripts of all schools attended. If the student
falls below our admission criteria, we can usually help prescribe a plan
that leads to admission after repeating or taking new classes at another
college, most often a community college. &#8222;

SUNY Oswego

http://www.oswego.edu/



Students must show records &#8211; but only grades at the new college
would count for the GPA.


This is a partial list, because originally I erased these standard answers.


&#8222;I&#8217;m sorry but it is a requirement of our accrediting body
that students present all previous coursework at the time of
admission.  Coursework of less than &#8220;C&#8221; is usually not
accepted and students have to repeat that coursework. Overall gpa must
be a 2.0 for admission.  Students can take up to 12 credits without
admission, then apply, and have those new courses raise the gpa to
2.0. &#8222;

Dominican College

<http://www.dc.edu>



&#8222;The College of Saint Elizabeth considers adult students for
admission based on a variety of criteria, with the prior academic
transcript only being part of the process.  However, we would ask to
receive all relevant academic information forwarded to us.  We may
decide to look beyond the prior academic work, but the student must
share that information with us.

 

It is worth pointing out, in addition, that prior grades are never
factored into a student&#8217;s cumulative GPA at the College of Saint
Elizabeth.  Only courses taken at the College are considered.  &#8222;

The College of Saint Elizabeth

<http://www.cse.edu >



Bloomfield College

<http://bloomfield.edu/indexf.asp>



Here is a list of possible opportunities for scholarships:

Adult Student Scholaships

<http://www.back2college.com/library/scholarships.htm>



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who3ver-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $40.00
Politicalguru, you are excellent as always :-)  I really do appreciate
the effort you put into this answer.

Thank you very much

Comments  
Subject: Re: College GPA
From: maceo24-ga on 06 Dec 2005 13:57 PST
 
Your friend most likely does not want the school to ignore her
previous record unless it prohibits her from getting into the new
school.  Let me explain my experience.

This little story takes place in Michigan and I am not aware if it
works for other states.  I began college in the fall of 1995 at a
state university.  In the spring of 2000 I realized the situation was
hopeless as I had around 70 credits and a GPA of just over 2.0.

From here, I applied to a second state university and was accepted. 
They accepted all of my credits in which I achieved a grade above 2.0.
 So, I started at the new school with around 50 credit hours.

As a bonus, the new school took the credits, but not the grades
associated with them.  So, I began my new collegiate career with 50
credit hours and a blank slate of a GPA.  I finished in 2 more years
and graduated with a GPA of 3.9.
Subject: Re: College GPA
From: who3ver-ga on 08 Dec 2005 21:40 PST
 
Thank you for your follow up.  I appreciate your effort.
Subject: Re: College GPA
From: politicalguru-ga on 17 Dec 2005 02:59 PST
 
Thank you for the rating and the tip.

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