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Path length on a spherical surface
Category: Science > Math Asked by: emoll-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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05 Dec 2005 16:13 PST
Expires: 04 Jan 2006 16:13 PST Question ID: 601903 |
Suppose one were to construct a path on a sphere of radius r that (like the earth) has designated poles and lines of latitude and longitude. The path is to begin on the equator at 0d longitude and end at the north pole, with the condition that at each point on the path, the north latitude and the west longitude are equal. How long is the path, in terms of r? I have an approximate solution: about 1.9101r, which I got by using a formula I derived (years ago) for determining the great-circle distance between two points on a sphere given their respective latitudes and longitudes, and applying it incrementally, Riemann-sum style, to small segments of the path. I imagine there's a way to compute this directly--a path integral of some sort . . . but not having taken calculus since 1975 I'm a little rusty! Is there such an integral? Can the result be expressed exactly (say, with pi and radicals)? Just curious. Thanks, Eric |
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Re: Path length on a spherical surface
From: manuka-ga on 06 Dec 2005 01:12 PST |
Let r be the radius, theta (henceforth t) be the longitude, and phi (henceforth p) the latitude. The coordinate equations are x = r cos t cos p y = r sin t cos p z = r sin p We want p to go from 0 to pi/2 and also keep t = p. So we get our coordinate as (r cos^2 p, r sin p cos p, r sin p). The path length will be Int {p=0..pi/2} sqrt((dx/dp)^2 + (dy/dp)^2 + (dz/dp)^2) dp = Int {p=0..pi/2} sqrt([-2r cos p sin p]^2 + [r cos^2 p - r sin^2 p]^2 + [r cos p]^2) dp = r. Int {p=0..pi/2} sqrt(4 cos^2 p sin^2 p + cos^4 p + sin^4 p - 2 cos^2 p sin^2 p + cos^2 p) dp = r. Int {p=0..pi/2} sqrt([cos^2 p + sin^2 p]^2 + cos^2 p) dp = r. Int {p=0..pi/2} sqrt(1 + cos^2 p) dp Wolfram's online integrator gives the indefinite integral in terms of an incomplete elliptic integral funtion as sqrt(2).EllipticE(p, 1/2). Wolfram's functions site also says that EllipticE(0, m) = 0 EllipticE(pi/2, m) = E(m) where the latter is a complete elliptic integral funtion of the second kind, so we have r. sqrt(2). E(1/2) Unfortunately we can't do any better than that for an analytical answer. Wolfram's functions site evaluates E(1/2) to 1.350643881 (10 sf), so we get an answer of 1.910098894 r to 10 sf, which agrees nicely with your empirical answer. For future reference: http://integrals.wolfram.com/ http://functions.wolfram.com/ |
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Re: Path length on a spherical surface
From: emoll-ga on 06 Dec 2005 06:54 PST |
Thanks, manuka, for your quick and excellent response. |
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