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Ilegal immigrants in prison
Category: Reference, Education and News > Current Events Asked by: peacester-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
05 Dec 2005 23:00 PST
Expires: 06 Dec 2005 19:06 PST Question ID: 602021 |
What percentage of the entire prison population in the US is comprised of illegal immigrants? |
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Re: Ilegal immigrants in prison
From: elids-ga on 06 Dec 2005 06:07 PST |
It appears that it is 11% from http://www.bop.gov/news/quick.jsp#1 Drug Offenses: 91,607 (53.4 %) Weapons, Explosives, Arson: 23,191 (13.5 %) Immigration: 18,928 (11.0 %) Robbery: 9,987 (5.8 %) Burglary, Larceny, Property Offenses: 6,838 (4.0 %) Extortion, Fraud, Bribery: 7,111 (4.1 %) Homicide, Aggravated Assault, and Kidnapping Offenses: 5,377 (3.1 %) Miscellaneous: 4,242 (2.5 %) Sex Offenses: 1,813 (1.1 %) Banking and Insurance, Counterfeit, Embezzlement: 969 (0.6 %) Courts or Corrections: 708 (0.4 %) Continuing Criminal Enterprise: 594 (0.3 %) National Security: 103 (0.1 %) * Data calculated for those with offense-specific information available. ========= However I would question the data presented by this organization because the total US inmate population is well over two million http://www.nationmaster.com/country/us/Crime however, according to this Bureau of Prisons the total population of inmates is 188,000. I'm inclined to believe they have an agenda of some kind. |
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Re: Ilegal immigrants in prison
From: elids-ga on 06 Dec 2005 06:19 PST |
Ohh Ok I get it, the second link reports all crimes in the US, so there are well over 2 million crimes but about 188,000 inmates.... which kinda makes one wonder the facility contracts out the housing of about 30% of inmates and they have 35,000 employees... that means they have one employee for every inmate... Darn! I don't think I get that kind of attention in a 5 star hotel! lol |
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Re: Ilegal immigrants in prison
From: elids-ga on 06 Dec 2005 06:21 PST |
"one employee for every inmate..." should've read 'one employee for every three inmates...' geez |
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Re: Ilegal immigrants in prison
From: myoarin-ga on 06 Dec 2005 06:29 PST |
Eli, That is just the Federal Bureau of Prison statistics: http://www.bop.gov/about/index.jsp I seem to remember that about 1% of the US population is incarcerated. I don't know what that does to the statistics. Regards, Myoarin |
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Re: Ilegal immigrants in prison
From: elids-ga on 06 Dec 2005 06:58 PST |
Hi Myoarin, Yes that is exactly what I remembered reading... over two million in prison... ohh ... I can be slow sometimes... FEDERAL... lol ok I get it... thanx |
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Re: Ilegal immigrants in prison
From: elids-ga on 06 Dec 2005 08:25 PST |
I was thinking about this, if a person commits several crimes the greater crime would trump the others, so whatever else they did it would be fair to say that those 18,928 people are all the imprisoned illegals in the country. Since we have 2.3 million felons; of the total population of inmates less than one percent is illegal. Huh! considering the amount of noise they make about illegals and the threat they pose, I would've thought it was much higher percentage than that.... there you have it, politics at work again... I could kick myself for not having picked up on this before... geez... lol |
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Re: Ilegal immigrants in prison
From: peacester-ga on 06 Dec 2005 18:47 PST |
Thanks for the great tip. http://www.bop.gov/news/quick.jsp#1 has a good part of what I was after, though only for the federal system and not all the states. The way I see it, the 11% in prison for immigration violations are all illegal migrants, but in addition, some of the people that are in for other offenses must be illegal migrants too. Thus, the other table at this site may be more informative: Citizenship United States: 135,045 (71.8 %) Mexico: 31,845 (16.9 %) Colombia: 3,495 (1.9 %) Cuba: 1,733 (0.9 %) Dominican Republic: 3,432 (1.8 %) Other/Unknown: 12,537 (6.7 %) Since most of the citizens from other countries were probably not extradited, I think this means that at least 25% of all inmates in the federal system are illegal migrants, predominantly from Mexico. If you take the 11% of illegals in for immigration violations, you'r left with 14% in for some pretty bad stuff. This is quite surprising to me, because I suspected that this was probably a trumped up figure. Furthermore, I don't think the rest of your math is right in reaching the "<1% of all US inmates are illegal migrants" conclusion, because it assumes that very few of the prisoners in the state prisons are illegal migrants. In fact I know that in my own state of Arizona, a significant fraction of state prisoners are indeed undocumented migrants (see http://www.gao.gov/htext/d05337r.html). There are plenty of bad things you can do to get imprisoned in state jail that are more serious than immigration violations, so the feds would not take them away from the states. So, although my intent was to dispell what I figured was hateful hype, it looks like the problem of undocumented migrants committing serious crimes in the US really does hold up to a cursory fact check. This won't make me stop going out to the desert to try to rescue a few of the hundreds of people that are dying from thirst and heat every year in our borderlands, but it will make me think more seriously about the negative impacts of our immigration problems. |
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