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Expired Med. Is it still good?
Category: Health > Medicine Asked by: sunnycal-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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19 Dec 2005 16:46 PST
Expires: 18 Jan 2006 16:46 PST Question ID: 607700 |
Does hydroc/apap expire? Generic for vicodin es. I have some that says to dicard after 6/2002. My daughter had foot surgery friday and is taking the same med. Can she use this to save money. Is it still good? |
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Re: Expired Med. Is it still good?
Answered By: cynthia-ga on 20 Dec 2005 23:59 PST |
Hi sunnycal, I found the answer in Healing Hands --a publication of Health Care for the Homeless Clinician?s Network, National Health Care for the Homeless Council in Nashville, Tennessee. The link below gives many suggestions as to how to obtain prescription drugs at a discount, as well as addressing the issue of expired drugs. They have a list of drugs that definitely should not be taken when expired, and describe how to tell if other drugs have deteriorated past the point of being safe or effective. This publication is made for clinics to use as a guide with indigent folks, and since I can understand your daughter wanting to take the pain meds, after all, they're working, and they're free. I have done this many times myself. So, in the spirit of giving you the information you need to help her do this safely, I give you this: I want you to know that there is a case for disposing of medication at the expiration date. The Scroll down to pages 3 and 4: "Using Expired Medications: A Murky issue" and: "Free and Reduced-Price Drugs" at this link: http://www.nhchc.org/Network/HealingHands/1998/hh.11_98.pdf Here's another site, HealthLink, that says pretty much the same thing but in a lot less detail: http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/1031002531.html ..."Question 1: After an expiration date on a medication, how long can you actually keep it? What if it's unopened? Dr. Mitchell answers: Generally, expiration dates have been set by pharmaceutical companies, based on their internal tests of the longest period of time that a medication is known to be effective. Based on other studies, medications probably continue to be effective at least one to two years after the expiration date, and maybe as long as 10 to 15 years later. Medications do retain their effectiveness longer if they are kept unopened or unexposed to humid air. The only report of harm coming from the ingestion of an expired medication was with tetracycline many years ago. So, it's probably safe to take an expired medication, but not if it's a prescription medication that has expired..." Maybe it's not the wisest choice, but a quick call to any pharmcist will let you know for sure if her specific drug is ok after the expiration date. I can't give an opinion either way. If I can be of further assistance, please ask for a clarification! ~~Cynthia Search terms used at Google: "expired medication" safety | |
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Re: Expired Med. Is it still good?
From: pinkfreud-ga on 19 Dec 2005 16:57 PST |
I would not take prescription medicine that is three and a half years past its expiration date. Generic hydrocodone APAP is not very expensive. Better safe than sorry. |
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Re: Expired Med. Is it still good?
From: markvmd-ga on 19 Dec 2005 17:24 PST |
I second Pinkfreud's comment. While medicine does not magically go bad on the day of expiration, three years is too long for a set of such complex medications to be expired. Without going into details, some medication may not merely become less effective as it deteriorates; it may become dangerous. |
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Re: Expired Med. Is it still good?
From: bcguide-ga on 20 Dec 2005 21:46 PST |
The reason that expiration dates are put on medications is the same reason that milk and other food goods are labeled with a 'sell by' date. Would you even think about giving your daughter milk from a container that was labeled with a 6/2002 expiration date? As medicines age, the chemical compounds can alter making them ineffective, or as markvmd-ga pointed out, they can change to harmful substances... I'd toss the bottle and get the new prescription filled rather than take a chance. Hope she heals quickly and you all have a happy holiday! |
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Re: Expired Med. Is it still good?
From: myoarin-ga on 21 Dec 2005 04:46 PST |
A somewhat different view: A German doctor pointed out to me that the "expiry date" on medicines that can be kept without special controls (such as required refrigeration) is based on the minimal period of effectiveness in less than average conditions, e.g., hot and humid climates, exposure to light; that if medicines are kept in better conditions, they are usable past the expiry date - NOT ALL MEDICINES, of course. And let's face it, the producers are interested in selling; an early expiry date that can be justified is in their interest. |
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Re: Expired Med. Is it still good?
From: ettrick-ga on 01 Jan 2006 10:36 PST |
Most medicines in tablets and capsule form are very stable if kept dry and not exposed to high temperatures. For example aspirin or acetaminophen tablets kept under such conditions would still be OK after 100 years but glyceryl trinitrate tablets degenerate after the bottle is opened after several months. Hydrocodone would be OK after 100 years also, it is a very stable compound if kept dry. Manufacturers must put expiry dates to protect the consumer in case of inadequate storage. Expensive drugs when expired are reanalysed and then repackaged if OK with a new expiry date. The comment regarding milk is invalid as it is a non-sterile mixture of nutrients and cannot be compared to most drugs. The German doctor comment is the only one with real scientific basis but unless one knows what is what playing around with expired medicines in ignorance could be dangerous as the comment regarding tetracyclines details. I am a consultant pharmacologist. |
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