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Mercury Poisoning from Singing Bowls?
Category: Health > Alternative Asked by: kajagoo-ga List Price: $8.00 |
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30 Dec 2005 21:20 PST
Expires: 29 Jan 2006 21:20 PST Question ID: 611379 |
I enjoy playing Tibetan Singing Bowls -- easy to locate, check ebay ... or Google!! Anyway, Mercury is frequently mentioned as a component in the mixture of their metals. We all know liquid mercury is a serious toxin ... but then again "dental amalgam" is supposed to be "safe". I am concerned about giving these as gifts! * How do I distinguish singing bowls which include mercury (or don't) and what are the health risks? |
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Re: Mercury Poisoning from Singing Bowls?
From: myoarin-ga on 01 Jan 2006 13:17 PST |
A Researcher had a lock on this question for while. A couple of points: The singing bowl you can buy will not be made of the 7 or 12 metal alloy that has been found in antique bowls, which does contain mercury. A bowl that you can buy will almost surely NOT have mercury in the alloy. http://www.asianartmall.com/tibetansingingbowlsarticle.htm http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id6.html Mercury is indeed very poisonous, so no one is going to speak up and say that there are no risks, but millions of people with amalgam tooth fillings, which contain mercury, are not all - or any - becoming "mad hatters", although there is a "scare industry" to get them all to have new fillings. The fact that some dentists support this and "test" clients and expound on the risks speaks for itself. The fact that amalgam, which includes a much higher percentage of mercury than that in an antique singing bowl, has not been proven harmful, suggests strongly that the bit in the alloy of the old bowls is also not harmful. Mercury, which is liquid at room temperature, is said to very volatile, that is, the liquid vaporizes rapidly - one thinks about the way gasoline or pure alcohol evaporate - wow, scare! - because mercury vapor is the "best" way to suffer from mercury poisoning, a serious occupational hazard for felt makers in olden times and for people active in fire-plating gold, both processes that released mercury vapor at much higher rates than at normal room temperature. Here is a site that talks about vaporizing of mercury: http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~scintech/mercury/WhatBigDeal.htm "Reported having 1 kg of mercury in a cauldron in a 43 m^3 room. He did not seal his package of mercury. The typical cauldron is about 25 cm. in diameter, and with an air exchange rate in the room of .5 air changes per hour, the mercury vapor level is approximately 600 ug/m^3. This level is twelve times higher than the accepted occupational exposure limit set by the U.S. National Institute of Ocupational Safety and Health." Note the cauldron dimension for his 1 kg of mercury. It has a surface area of 490 sq cm. Mercury is 13.593 times heavier than water. If he had 1 kg water in that container, it would be about 2 cm deep, but he has mercury, so it is only 2cm/13.6 deep, about 0.15 cm deep, 1.5 mm. The calculations in the excerpt are all correct, but the premise of someone keeping a kilo of mercury as a thin layer at the bottom of a 25 cm (10 in.) diameter cauldron is nonsense. Someone is trying to make an argument. Of course, this is no professional advice (see the disclaimer below), and I will admit that I have had amalgam fillings for over fifty years and that as a kid I played with pure mercury, holding it in the palm of my hand and rubbing it on dimes (then silver), making them shiny for a while. So, yeah, as everyone can attest here, I am pretty goga. ;) The important point to your question is that the bowls you can buy won't have the alloy of the the antique ones that contains mercury. Myoarin |
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Re: Mercury Poisoning from Singing Bowls?
From: myoarin-ga on 02 Jan 2006 03:26 PST |
Hmmm? Yeah, maybe I am: that should be "gaga" ... |
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Re: Mercury Poisoning from Singing Bowls?
From: kajagoo-ga on 03 Jan 2006 18:24 PST |
Hmm. A researcher had a lock, but then...? Anyway thanks, Myoarin-ga, for the adoption and lengthy detailing of my issue. For a bright guy, I hate to suggest the comprehensive elements were lost on me but I have to address specifics -- the most compelling evidence of non-exposure is MITCH NUR's interview response asserting that modern bowls are by-and-large brass-only, correct? After all the repetition of sales-pitches suggesting multiple "unknown" metals, these statements are all just borrowing the reputation of the classic ingredients because nobody uses anything other than "bell-alloy"? (Nonetheless, it IS a great link!) Alrighty then... and I must confess the vaporization issue was somewhat lost on me; perhaps I've just a had a long day but I assume you are saying that only mercury vapor is harmful -- to which one would not be exposed without a) liquid mercury or b) deliberate heating? Anyway, thanks for the response(s)! |
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Re: Mercury Poisoning from Singing Bowls?
From: myoarin-ga on 04 Jan 2006 04:08 PST |
Hi Kajagoo, I think you understood the information correctly, especially about modern bowls being made of simple bell alloy. Personally, I expect that the complicated antique alloys had just unintentional traces of the many ingrediants, probably just contamination that was common from the primitive methods of refining and probably unkown to the makers. And yes, my understanding (no expert) is that mercury vapor is the most likely form of poisoning, also ingesting it in some way, but these days that is rather rare. I should have posted this site about mercury poisoning before: http://www.calpoison.org/public/mercury.html It is interesting that "calpoison" after explaining that ingesting elemental mercury is probably harmless goes on to such a song and dance about avoiding any skin contact with the element. But as I mentioned before, no responsible source can down-play the risks. So give all your friends bowls. Buy them at once so you can pick ones that harmonize, and then you can all join to have concert. :) Regards, Myoarin |
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