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Subject: Private Golf Clubs
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: fishguy-ga
List Price: $150.00
Posted: 04 Sep 2002 06:40 PDT
Expires: 04 Oct 2002 06:40 PDT
Question ID: 61608
List of private golf clubs in the united states with phone number and facilities

Request for Question Clarification by thx1138-ga on 04 Sep 2002 07:55 PDT
Dear fishguy-ga, I have located a website that will give you the
information you need (and itīs free!) an example of which is below.

However there are 4256 private golf clubs in the database and 3542
semi-private clubs in the database.  It is not really practical to
post the 7798 details of each golf club here.  Is it acceptable to you
if I give you details of how to access the site and filter the data to
list only the private and/or semi private clubs?


Example information from the database:

"Addison Reserve 
18-hole (Private) 
7201 Addison Reserve Blvd
Delray Beach, FL 33446
United States (Palm Beach County) 
Phone: (561)637-9555 
Fax: (561)637-5916 

 

Users' Rating 4.8 (out of 5)
REVIEW THIS COURSE 
Year Built 1996  
Designer Arthur Hills  
Classification Private  
Guest Policy Reciprocal  
Dress Code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required  
Metal Spikes Not Allowed 
Fivesomes Not Allowed 
Season Open all year  
Tee Times N/A  
N/A  
Tee Times Accepted Online N/A  
Pro Shop Hours 7:00 AM / N/A  
Location Map & Directions 
 
Weekday Peak Season - 18 holes $65.00  
Weekday Peak Season - 9 holes  $40.00  
Weekends Peak Season - 18 holes $65.00  
Weekends Peak Season - 9 holes  $40.00  
   

Pro/Manager Don Beattie  
Superintendent/Greenskeeper George Elliot  
Greens Bent Grass  
Fairways Bermuda Grass  
Number of Sand Bunkers 101-999 
Water Hazards in Play Yes 
Number of Rounds Played Annually N/A 
Greens Aerated Varies
 
Overseeding Schedule No Overseeding
 
Other Courses at Addison Reserve   
 
Tees Yardage Rating Slope Par 


This is an exclusive, private club. In order to play the course guests
must be accompanied by a member. The back nine on this eighteen hole
course opened in spring,1997."

 
Best Regards

THX1138

Request for Question Clarification by thx1138-ga on 04 Sep 2002 08:20 PDT
By the way it also lists the club facilities in this type of format:

"CLUB FACILITIES AND AMENITIES

Addison Reserve (Private)  

Golf Carts Electric carts available  

Golf Cart Rental Fees $18.00 per person (18 holes), $10.00 per person
(9 holes)

Pull Cart Rentals Pull carts not available  

Rental Clubs Available No  

Caddies Available No  

Driving Range Yes, Hitting balls from grass  

Additional Training Facilities Putting Green, Sand and Chipping Area 
 
Pro On Site Yes  

Facility Management Internal 

Ownership Type Equity  

Part of Real Estate Development Yes 

Must own property if member No 

Real Estate Information The Addison Reserve features six villages with
twenty-two models each. Home styles range form Spanish-tile barrel
roofs to Tuscan columns, and prices range from the mid-$300,000's to
more than $2 million. Future developments in the 653-acre community
include a state-of-the-art sports and fitness complex complete with
cardiovascular and weight machines, an aerobics studio, saunas, steam
rooms, a Mediterranean-style pool, tennis courts, casual dining, and a
children's activity center. For more information, call (800) 317-2289.
"

Regards
THX1138

Clarification of Question by fishguy-ga on 04 Sep 2002 08:41 PDT
Providing the website, with clarification on how to search for the
appropriate information would be acceptable.
Answer  
Subject: Re: Private Golf Clubs
Answered By: thx1138-ga on 04 Sep 2002 09:06 PDT
Rated:2 out of 5 stars
 
Hi fishguy-ga, and thank you for the clarification.

OK, here is how to access the information you require:

(1.)Go to this website:
http://www.golfcourse.com/search/custom.cfm
(It will be best if you 'copy and paste' this web address into the
browser bar so you can follow my instructions)

towards the bottom right of the form you will see:
 Public
 Private
 Semi-Private
 Military
 Resort

Click on the box you require (in your case private and/or
semi-private, a tick will appear)It is important that you do not click
on any other boxes .ie just those type of courses you want listed. 
You can click on multiple boxes and both types of courses will be
listed together ie private and semi-private.

(2.) Click on "Locate"

(3.) You will then see the first ten golf clubs of the type you have
selected (ie. private and/or semi-private)  Click on the name of the
club you want to see the details of.  This will then give you the
information about that golf club. (To view the next ten clubs click on
[Next 10] )
NOTE: You can also sort by Course Name, City, or State by clicking on
the underlined text above the respective column.

(4.) To view the facilities that the golf club offers, look at the
bottom left  hand side of the page and you will see "MORE INFORMATION
ON....CLUB" click where it says "Club Facilities" and the relevant
facilities for the selected club will appear.

NOTE: The database is quite large and it will take a few seconds for
the pages to 'load'

Thank you for the question and if you need any clarification of my
answer do not hesitate to ask.

Best Regards and good luck with your research.

THX113

The search strategy I found the information with was :
"golf directory"
://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=10&hl=pt&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Pesquisa+Google&as_epq=golf+directory&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=

Request for Answer Clarification by fishguy-ga on 04 Sep 2002 12:07 PDT
I've tried to use the information you provided.  This is very
cumbersome for my purpose.  I have to follow a link to each club to
get the relevant information.  I am looking for a list with the
relevant information.  Any other thoughts would be greatly
appreciated.

Clarification of Answer by thx1138-ga on 04 Sep 2002 14:55 PDT
Hi fishguy-ga,

I have to say that golfcourse.com
(http://www.golfcourse.com/search/custom.cfm) is by far the best
resource on the internet for your needs.  The other options are to buy
a CD, see below (which presents the data in a similar format so you
wouldnīt gain anything there) or to manually go through YellowPages
which doesnīt bear thinking about.  There are are other golf course
databases online but they are not nearly as detailed as golfcourse.com

"Two recent discoveries, both worth checking out if you're looking for
a spot to tee it up on your next vacation, are Golfcourse.com
(http://golfcourse.com) and Golfserv (http://www.golfserv.com).
Both of the sites have a connection to Golf magazine. I don't know
whether either is completely new, or a greatly improved version of the
magazine's online course directory that I checked out a couple of
years ago and found wanting, so much so that I didn't go back.
Whatever the case, these two are both worthy of any golfer's
attention.
Golfcourse.com is not only very complete but very well-organized and
easy to use."
http://www.inlandempireonline.com/traveler/html/1999/071899.html

I also have a list of just postal addresses of 6387 golf courses in
the USA. in an MSWord document, however they are JUST postal
addresses.

This site is similar to golfcourse.com (the site recommended in my
answer, but requires registering for a free membership)
http://www.golfserv.com/apps/courses/search.asp?mainnav=courses&subnav=courses1

There is also a CD-rom for sale $29.95 + shipping
“Get Instant Information on over 17,000 courses
across the USA and Canada”
http://www.forebettergolf.com/greengrass/

There are various other golf course data bases however they are not
'searchable' by golf course catagory:

http://www.golfhere.com/usa.htm

http://www.play18.com/play18/

http://www.ifyougolf.com/coursefinder/USA/

The only other suggestion I have is to use Google to search the site,
and set the number of listings to 100.  This will give you 100 links
per search page. Click on the link below to see what I mean
(substitute the words "public courses" to "private courses" or
"semi-private courses" to return the desired results 100 at a time.

://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=10&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=public+course&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=www.golfcourse.com&safe=images


If you have any other points, queries or whatever, do not hesitate to
let me know.

Best Regards 

THX1138


Just as a footnote.
The MS Word document I have lists 6387 golf courses and is 149 pages
in length! and thatīs with one line per club (more or less)!  I
suspect the information you require would run to more than one line
per club, hence the reason for the information to be in a searchable
database in the format of www.golfcourse.com and not in one single
document.

All the best

Clarification of Answer by thx1138-ga on 04 Sep 2002 15:37 PDT
Hello again fishguy-ga,  Sorry to keep going on!

Just to let you know I have contacted "GOLF MAGAZINE Golf Course
GuideŪ
Database Licensing" to find out how much it would cost to purchase the
database in a different format (and if itīs possible!)
I will let you know their answer as soon as I have heard from them.

Best regards

THX1138

Clarification of Answer by thx1138-ga on 05 Sep 2002 09:49 PDT
Hi fishguy-ga,

After several e-mails to the Database Licensing dept I have received
their reply.  As you can see the cost to have a license for their
database (which would presumably give you the access you need) is
between $15,000 and $50,000 annually (I was surprised too!)
The best way (and only way) to get the information you require at a
resonable price (ie. free) is to use the method described in my
answer. Iīm sorry the access to the information seems slow, but the
information is all there, and is regularly updated, and it is free.

If I can be of any further help, please not hesitate to ask.

Best Regards

THX1138

-------------------------------------------------------
E-mail received 5th September:
"We license our database on an annual basis, as we do not sell our
database outright. The costs are from $15,000 annually to $50,000
annually.

If you are planning to do mailing lists, we have a different price
structure.

Jen Lee
Licensing Manager
GOLFONLINE.com/GOLFCOURSE.com
(A division of Time4 Media, an AOL Time Warner Company) 
2 Park Avenue, 10th Floor
New York, NY 10016
Jen.Lee@time4.com
Phone 212-779-5210
Fax 212-779-5588
AOL Instant Messenger jlee0579 "
fishguy-ga rated this answer:2 out of 5 stars
While the researcher was able to find the information that I needed,
the answer was not a list as I requested.  The information is not
available in a format that I can readily use.

Comments  
Subject: Re: Private Golf Clubs
From: supergirl-ga on 31 Oct 2002 07:57 PST
 
Hi fishguy,

Just a note that you can find golf courses listed by state at 

http://www.ultimatecaddy.com/coursedirectories/uscourses/default.html

however, it is more like a directory listing...it doesn't list facilities.

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