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Subject: WW II German Handguns
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: dick5824-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 04 Sep 2002 20:17 PDT
Expires: 04 Oct 2002 20:17 PDT
Question ID: 61808
I have a F.B. Radom, model 35, V15 9mm NICKLE PLATED handgun. It has 2
serial numbers - 0ne on the body of the gun - D8816 - the 2nd number
is under the slide of the gun and it is - preceeded by a german
swastika G0654. This number is repeated under the right side grip of
the gun. Is there any way the history of this gun can be traced?  AND,
2nd can we ascertain its approximate value?  dick5824
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Subject: Re: WW II German Handguns
Answered By: markoft-ga on 05 Sep 2002 00:10 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hello dick5824.

The pistol you have there seems to be of Polish design and
manufacture.  While outside it looks like a Colt 1911 it does have
different internals.  Originally designed in 1930, production began in
1936 and ended, temporarily, when Poland fell to the Nazi Army,
aproximatly 40,000 units produced.  Production resumed in 1940 and
continued in 3-4 different quality gradings, totalling another 300,000
plus units.  Quality decreased as the production continued.  Both
serial numbers could fall into either the Grade I German or the Grade
III German as they finished the alphabet during production of the
Grade III models and began again from Axxxx.  The presence or absence
of a take-down latch is the only way to tell the difference.

Since you have two separate serial numbers it is possible this pistol
was constructed from two different pistols.  It is also possible that
this pistol was constructed during the German Blitzkrieg in Poland as
pistols of that time had non-matching serial numbers.

The stock finish of these pistols was a rust-blue finish.  No mention
is made of nickle plated finishes.  This would have most likely been
added later, possibly by a soldier to claimed the pistol as a war
trophy.

Due to the serial number mismatch, duplicate issuance of serial
numbers, and the nickle plating, I would reccomend that you have this
pistol professional appraised.  They would be best able to determine
year of manufactuer and any adjustment for the nickle plating.  While
locating information on this pistol I did happen to locate 2
classified ads who listed prices in the $850 to $1000 range.  Specific
dates of manufacture, condition of your pistol, and any accessories
will effect the final appraisal.

Also your pistol is a Radom VIS model 35, not V15.  The poor
identification could be due to the nickle plating.

I hope I suffciently answered your question.

Primary reference:
Polish Firearms Page
http://hem.passagen.se/dadkri/Vis35.htm

Search strategy:
Google search for "radom 35"
://www.google.com/search?q=radom+35

Google search for "radom 35 VIS"
://www.google.com/search?q=radom+35+VIS
dick5824-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars

Comments  
Subject: Re: WW II German Handguns
From: thx1138-ga on 05 Sep 2002 05:14 PDT
 
Great Answer!

Just to add my bit......


"Radom Model 35 - 9mm - Nazi marked - excellent bore and grips - 85% -
$ 425.00"
http://www.cccfirearms.com/euromilitary.html 

"RADOM Model 35, Nazi type III, 9mm Good 0 $355.00" 
http://www.auctionarms.com/Pages/UPISpage19.htm 

"Radom Model 35 9mm caliber pistol with Nazi proofs. Refinished.
$398.50 see picture Item# PR1497"
http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/newarrivals.htm 

"WiS vz35 stand for "Wilniewczyc i(and) Skrzypinski, model of 1935".
Originally, it was manufactured in Poland by F.B.Radom factory"
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg61-e.htm 

"Nazi insignia. All matching numbers. Also, Polish Radom Vis35, 9mm,
Parkerized, A6524, Nazi insignia, All matching numbers. What would be
the collector value of these firearms, given the Nazi insignia? I am
not sure how to describe the condition, given that they are both
service pistols. Thank You, for your reply.

Answer: 
Bruce, sorry, but without more information about the condition and the
configuration of your pistols, it is impossible to pin down a specific
value. Both Radom and Hi-Power pistols came in several different
configurations including variations that were slotted for shoulder
stocks and had tangent rear sights. The more elaborate and rarer
configurations of these pistols will command a much higher value than
those without all of the bells and whistles. Depending upon
configuration and condition, Radom values can range form $100 to over
$1000, and Hi-Power values can range form $200 to over $3000. Marc"
http://oldguns.net/cgi-bin/f2f/f2f.pl?http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:KmYPyS1F64UC:oldguns.net/q%26a5_99.htm++Radom,+model+35+polish&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

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