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Q: Apple eMate connection to iMac ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   0 Comments )
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Subject: Apple eMate connection to iMac
Category: Computers > Wireless and Mobile
Asked by: placain-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 05 Sep 2002 11:19 PDT
Expires: 05 Oct 2002 11:19 PDT
Question ID: 61989
What is the best/most elegant way to connect my aging but lovable
Apple eMate 300 to my new iMac?

Request for Question Clarification by lot-ga on 05 Sep 2002 11:31 PDT
Hello
do you have a rough budget?
regards
lot-ga

Clarification of Question by placain-ga on 05 Sep 2002 12:40 PDT
Well, the eMate itself only cost me $100... so considerably less than that.
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Subject: Re: Apple eMate connection to iMac
Answered By: wengland-ga on 05 Sep 2002 15:05 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Greetings!

Ah, the old eMate - I have the little brother, the Newton 2100 at
home.  I remember chasing connectivity solutions around day in and day
out.  You basically have three choices, ranging in price from free to
$50.

1) Use a serial to USB adapter, like the Keyspan mentioned in the post
below:

"I have the keyspan adapter set to "emulate printer port" for the port
being used by the cable for the eMate. That's the key here -- set
everything to printer port. Now, instead of setting Apple Talk to
printer port, set it to something else (modem, ethernet, etc.), or
turn it off. Since you're using a serial connection (printer port),
then you need to have everything talk serial, not appletalk. When you
start up the Dock application on the eMate, set it to connect via
Serial. Set the Newton Connection Utilities desktop app to connect via
printer port. Now when you open that and hit "connect" on the emate,
the two should begin talking. "

From Pdastreet.com at:
http://www.pdastreet.com/boards/Newton/messages/786.html

Keyspan, Belkin and other USB - Serial adapters can be found here from
$50 and up:
http://www.usbstuff.com/serial.html

Or, you can connect via IRDA, assuming your iMac has an IRDA port on
the front.    Only the original Bondi Blue iMac had an IRDA port.

This Google Cached page discusses setting this up using Sloup:
http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:UJ2MRn2iJq4C:mywebpages.comcast.net/saweyer/newton/sloup/connect.htm+emate+imac+connect&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

3) Get an Ethernet card for the eMate; the Farallon cards used to work
well, and may be available for a few dollars off of eBay.  The
'EtherMac' is the one you are looking for, like in this (closed)
auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2050096621

This Planet Newton page details using Ethernet on your Newton:
http://www.planetnewton.com/features/newtonnic.htm

The current Ethernet for the Newton information is at the Newton
Resources page:
http://www.chuma.org/newton/ethernet/

Also, read thru comp.sys.newton.misc - Folks there have even got
wireless networking running with their Newtons and eMates!

Good luck - if you need further information, please ask for a
clarification before rating this answer!

Thanks for using Google Answers.

Search Terms:
emate imac connect
://www.google.com/search?q=emate%20imac%20connect&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

and on Google Groups:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&q=emate+imac+connect&sa=N&tab=wg

newton network card
://www.google.com/search?q=newton+network+card

Request for Answer Clarification by placain-ga on 05 Sep 2002 17:33 PDT
I forgot to mention -- this is a new, flat-screen iMac, and it's
running Jaguar, and I don't have Classic installed (nor do I wish to
have it installed). Does that make a difference?

Clarification of Answer by wengland-ga on 06 Sep 2002 07:40 PDT
Greetings!

Congrats on your new iMac!  Can't wait till I get mine.  Anyway, to
connect your eMate to the Mac, you can use the NewTEN package
installer to install new software.  Available at:

http://www.panic.com/~stevenf/index.php?node=NewTen

The background behind it can be read from the Newton and Linux
Mini-HOWTO at:
http://misf67.cern.ch/~reinhold/Newton/Newton_and_Linux-mini-HOWTO.html

Also, if you are a Unix developer, or play one on TV, you may be able
to port the Newton XChange sofware to OS X:

http://www.jotabout.com/newton/nxchange/

It does require Motif libraries and runs under X Windows, so you'd
need to also install OroborOSX or another X Windows server on your
iMac. If that sounds like greek, skip it.  :-)

However, there are no OS X native packages to do everything the Newton
Connection Utilites could do.  In order to get that level of features,
you will need to install OS 9.x (Classic) on your new iMac to run NCU.

I hope this answers your question, and good luck!  


Search Strategy:
newton os x on Google Groups
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&q=newton+os+x&sa=N&tab=wg

newten
://www.google.com/search?q=newten&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

sloup newton
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&q=sloup+newton&btnG=Google+Search

Clarification of Answer by wengland-ga on 06 Sep 2002 07:43 PDT
Just to summarize (got a bit long winded there):

1) NCU only runs under OS 9.  NCU allows you to backup, install packages and more. 
2) You can run NCU under Classic successfully.
3) There is no direct replacement for NCU under OS X
4) You can install packages with NewTEN.
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