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Subject: batch coverting audio mac under 100.00
Category: Computers > Software
Asked by: eddiejanzer-ga
List Price: $20.00
Posted: 06 Sep 2002 07:28 PDT
Expires: 06 Oct 2002 07:28 PDT
Question ID: 62264
I have decided to rip my entire cd collection (200 albums) in aiff
form.  It's done.  I have firewire portable hard drives.  I am looking
for a good batch converter that will allow folders of music to be
converted to mp3 or ogg vorbis.  I suspect barbara batch will do it
but it's 500. dollars,  to much.  I need a program under 100. that
will do a good job.  Sound forge works only with a pc I believe and I
have a mac,  new. g4

Request for Question Clarification by wengland-ga on 06 Sep 2002 08:14 PDT
Are you running OS 9 or OS 10?

Clarification of Question by eddiejanzer-ga on 06 Sep 2002 09:19 PDT
I am running Jaguar (10.2)

Request for Question Clarification by maniac-ga on 12 Sep 2002 17:12 PDT
Hello Eddiejanzer,

I have an alternative approach that would certainly handle the 1000's
of files you are talking about. However, it is not a "drag and drop"
solution - if you need such a solution, I can't seem to find a low
cost solution to meet your needs.

If you are interested,
 o You will be able to select a set of files, a folder (or nested
folders), and have the conversion to MP3 or Ogg Vorbis (or both) done
as a single operation (may take hours to complete) as a background
task.
 o You will be able to monitor progress of the conversions.
 o You should be able to adapt the solution to other audio formats as
other tools become available.
 o You will also have a tool to help identify when new converters are
available.

I have tested this to generate a few CD's of MP3's on the OS X machine
I have here. If you are interested in such a solution, please let me
know.
  --Maniac
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There is no answer at this time.

The following answer was rejected by the asker (they reposted the question).
Subject: Re: batch coverting audio mac under 100.00
Answered By: kyrie26-ga on 06 Sep 2002 12:26 PDT
 
Hi eddiejanzer-ga,

I have found you several MP3 encoder applications for the Mac, that
specifically are capable of converting from AIFF to MP3. I don't have
a Mac myself, so I'm unable to test them, but I've visited their
Websites and made sure that they have what you're looking for. They're
all under $100, and in some cases, FREE!

Here's the list :


+---------------------------------------+

BladeEnc 1_4 for Macintosh
http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/BladeEnc_mac/

" This is the Macintosh version of the command-line MP3 encoder
BladeEnc, by Tord Jansson.
This program acts as a wrapper to the original BladeEnc. It's "around"
the original BladeEnc encoding engine, making it possible to use
BladeEnc on Mac. Version 1.3 is based on BladeEnc engine version 0.92
(stable).

- Many bitrates: 32, 40, 48, 56, 64, 80, 96, 112, 128, 160, 192, 224,
256 and 320 kbps
- Many sample rates: 48, 44.1 and 32 kHz
- Drag & drop support (drag AIFFs or WAVs on BladeEnc to encode them)
- Control over most original BladeEnc options "

License : FREEWARE

+---------------------------------------+

Amadeus II
http://www.hairersoft.com/Amadeus.html

"Amadeus II is a very powerful sound editor for Macintosh. It runs on
MacOS 8.6 and up, as well as natively on MacOS X. The most recent
version of Amadeus II is 3.5.2. "

"Support of the Mp3 and Ogg Vorbis formats that allow you to achieve
very low file sizes, while preserving most of the original quality of
your sounds."

"Support for the formats AIFF/AIFC/Wave/Mp3/Ogg" 

License : Shareware $25

+---------------------------------------+

Home of mp3 encoder
http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d2linjo/mp3/mp3enc.html

"mp3 encoder uses the (freely available) code from the SWA Export Xtra
by Macromedia to convert AIFF files to layer 3 mpeg sound files."

License : Shareware 

+---------------------------------------+

Audion 3 - The ultimate Macintosh MP3 player - encoder
http://www.panic.com/audion/

Has got batch encoder, and supports WAV, AIFF, Vorbis and more.

License : Shareware $29.95

+---------------------------------------+

Proteron : MPegger
http://www.proteron.com/mpegger/

"MPegger is a pioneer in MP3 encoding on the Macintosh and remains a
powerful digital audio tool. It supports both MPEG Layer II and Layer
III (MP2 & MP3). Normalization and direct encoding from SoundDesign II
files make it an easy choice for high-end digital musicians. CDDB
access makes labeling and archiving your music collection a snap.
Requires only a PowerPC running Apple's System 7. Version 1.1.1 fixes
a crash bug with MP2 encoding. "

Will encode AIFF, PCM or Sound Designer II files.

License : $24.95

+---------------------------------------+

SoundJam.com: SoundJam MP: THE MP3 Player and Encoder for Macintosh
Computers
http://www.soundjam.com/ov/index.html?PHPSESSID=3f9c14f7edbb8eae8a97a1ba44807220

"SoundJam MP v2.5 is the premier full featured MP3 player and recorder
for Macintosh, allowing you to easily build custom music playlists
that can track your music by artist, track, song, music style, track
length, date recorded, you name it! It also includes a 10 band graphic
equalizer that allows you to control the quality and tone of your
music manually or by using preset music styles: Jazz, Rock, Classical
and more. "

Converts AIFF sound files into MP3 format.

+---------------------------------------+

MUSICMATCH Jukebox Digital Audio Software feature tour-mac
http://www.musicmatch.com/info/features/?os=mac

"Discover musical freedom with one of the most versatile jukebox
programs on the market! MUSICMATCH Jukebox features include:

- Internet radio with Radio MX 
- faster ripping 
- graphic equalizer 
- line-in encoding 
- multiple CD drive ripping 
- CD burning through Toast "

License : free, $19.99 for Plus version

+---------------------------------------+



Google Search Terms :

convert aiff mp3 mac
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=convert+aiff+mp3+mac



I hope you like this list, and that you find what you're looking for.
Please do not hesitate to request for clarification if needed. Enjoy!


kyrie26-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by eddiejanzer-ga on 06 Sep 2002 13:22 PDT
Ihave tried out a few of these programs,  I'm not sure I have
comunicated what I need clearly enough.  These programs let me convert
files but they won't let me drop a folder with 100s of files (songs)
and just convert them.  Barbrabatch does this and sonic foundry too, 
although it is for pc.  unless I'm missing something in the process...
let me know if we are communicating

Request for Answer Clarification by eddiejanzer-ga on 06 Sep 2002 13:35 PDT
I just emailed you,  I'm a little frustrated with this google system
right now.  I just spent 20. dollars to get the wrong answer to my
problem.  I also no longere have my question posted.  I'm afraid your
answer comes up way short, and I have done all that research already. 
Read about Barbara Batch software,  or Sonic foundry converter and you
will see there are different levels of converting.  I have 80 gigs of
music in aiff form and these programs will not cut it.

Clarification of Answer by kyrie26-ga on 06 Sep 2002 16:29 PDT
Hi eddiejanzer-ga,

My apologies, I guess we have different expectations on what you mean
by batch processing. By my definition, it means being able to do a
"select all" (within the program's user interface) on all the files
residing in a given directory, and then converting them. From my
experience, I was able to batch convert large numbers of files using
BladeEnc for the PC, and I was hoping BladeEnc for the Mac would do it
for you.

In any case, I did some more research and found these :


+--------------------------+

DropMP3
http://philippe.laval.free.fr/DropMP3/US/DropMP3_US.html

Based on LAME encoder supporting batch MP3 encoding.  Open source,
author encourages participation from programmers.

+--------------------------+

TurboMorph
http://www.demon.co.uk/gallery/Turbo.html

+--------------------------+

Dejal SndConverter Pro
http://www.dejal.com/sound-utils/converter.html

+--------------------------+


Hope these are what you're looking for. If not, let me know again and
we'll do some more hunting.

Cheers,

kyrie26-ga

Clarification of Answer by kyrie26-ga on 06 Sep 2002 16:41 PDT
eddiejanzer-ga, 

My mistake. TurboMorph and Dejal SndConverter Pro DO NOT SUPPORT MP3
format. Please disregard links for those.

On the other hand, BladeEnc for Mac does have drag & drop support
(drag AIFFs or WAVs on BladeEnc to encode them). Have you given this
one a try yet?


kyrie26-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by eddiejanzer-ga on 07 Sep 2002 08:10 PDT
thanks for the follow-up,  the "blade enc" program,  even when I just
drop a file into it and hit go it errors so I can't tell if it would
work.  I have tried a program,  an ogg vorbis  converter with a fish
icon,  drag and drop and I could choose files and drop them in and
that worked fine but when I drag a folder over it can't read it,  this
is the typical probem I run into although when I had a pc there were a
few programs that worked.  What I've done is archived all my music in
a lossless format,  a huge amount of music.  As technology changes I
don't have to worry about my music being digitzed and atiquated.  I
need to be able convert to ogg or mp3 or even wma and batch process
the entire collection if I want in one basic drag and drop... a folder
being and album,  dragging an album would be fine but opening the
folder to the files and dropping the files is to many steps.

Request for Answer Clarification by eddiejanzer-ga on 07 Sep 2002 08:10 PDT
thanks for the follow-up,  the "blade enc" program,  even when I just
drop a file into it and hit go it errors so I can't tell if it would
work.  I have tried a program,  an ogg vorbis  converter with a fish
icon,  drag and drop and I could choose files and drop them in and
that worked fine but when I drag a folder over it can't read it,  this
is the typical probem I run into although when I had a pc there were a
few programs that worked.  What I've done is archived all my music in
a lossless format,  a huge amount of music.  As technology changes I
don't have to worry about my music being digitzed and atiquated.  I
need to be able convert to ogg or mp3 or even wma and batch process
the entire collection if I want in one basic drag and drop... a folder
being and album,  dragging an album would be fine but opening the
folder to the files and dropping the files is to many steps.

Clarification of Answer by kyrie26-ga on 07 Sep 2002 10:22 PDT
Hi again eddiejanzer-ga, 

Putting myself in your shoes, I think I understand where you're coming
from. You have a huge collection of digitized music in "raw" or
"lossless" format that preserves 100% of the audio signal. However,
depending on the latest file format, you want to be able to easily
convert to it (at this point, that would be MP3). You want to minimize
the number of decisions / mouse clicks needed to get conversions done,
hence the need for drag and drop.

Here are the drag-and-drop converters I had recommended :

BladeEnc 1.4 for Macintosh 
http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/BladeEnc_mac/ 

DropMP3 
http://philippe.laval.free.fr/DropMP3/US/DropMP3_US.html 

... however, you mentioned that you have run into errors with
BladeEnc.

At this point, I would recommend that we try to troubleshoot. Also,
have you tried DropMP3, and are you getting errors too? How about this
- I will try digging up more drag-and-drop converters for the Mac, and
for now, try these programs again, and give me a detailed report of
what errors you're getting to see if we can rectify them.

Back to the hunt, let me know how you're doing.


Cheers,

kyrie26-ga

Clarification of Answer by kyrie26-ga on 07 Sep 2002 10:28 PDT
eddiejanzer-ga,

You mentioned that you dragged an entire folder onto the ogg vorbis
converter with the fish icon, but it didn't work. However, dragging
files (vs folders) onto it worked. Could this be a limitation of the
Mac OS? Meaning, regardless of converter program, you can only drag
files and not folders? Have you tried to test this on other kinds of
drag-and-drop programs? If this were the case, then it looks like you
would have to do a "select all" within the folder to be converted, and
then drag the whole selection onto the icon. Nothing we can do here if
it's an OS limitation. Let me know how that goes...


kyrie26-ga

Clarification of Answer by kyrie26-ga on 07 Sep 2002 11:05 PDT
Hi eddiejanzer-ga,

I found some more batch converter programs for you :


+--------------------------------+

DropOgg Mac Ogg Vorbis Encoder
http://www.macdvd.org/DropOgg/

+--------------------------------+

Mac MP3 Converter N2MP3
http://www.mp3-converter.com/n2mp3.htm

+--------------------------------+

MP3 Encoder 0.12
http://www.angrycoffee.com/tutorials/mp3/encode.html
[scroll to middle of the page, there are detailed instructions here]

+--------------------------------+


... are we getting closer? Let me know.


kyrie26-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by eddiejanzer-ga on 07 Sep 2002 11:30 PDT
hi Kyra,  I experienced this encoder problem (the fish) on my pc...I
have apreciated your help here.  I just found a program called MPEGGER
digital audio encoder for 25.00 dollars that I tried out for free and
have bought.  I can do mp3 settings and variable bit rate.  I
experimented with it first biy dragging a file over and dropping it. 
it imediately begins the encode of my aiff file.  I then dropped a
folder that held one album and it began encoding (encoding 1 of 15
files...  2 of 15 files etc.),  then I dropped of 10 albus within it
and it began the encoding process (encoding  1 file of 98 files).  So
this is what I want  and I don't know how to adress the 20. google fee
that I am placed to solve the problem.  What are your thoughts?

Request for Answer Clarification by eddiejanzer-ga on 07 Sep 2002 11:30 PDT
hi Kyra,  I experienced this encoder problem (the fish) on my pc...I
have apreciated your help here.  I just found a program called MPEGGER
digital audio encoder for 25.00 dollars that I tried out for free and
have bought.  I can do mp3 settings and variable bit rate.  I
experimented with it first biy dragging a file over and dropping it. 
it imediately begins the encode of my aiff file.  I then dropped a
folder that held one album and it began encoding (encoding 1 of 15
files...  2 of 15 files etc.),  then I dropped of 10 albus within it
and it began the encoding process (encoding  1 file of 98 files).  So
this is what I want  and I don't know how to adress the 20. google fee
that I am placed to solve the problem.  What are your thoughts?

Clarification of Answer by kyrie26-ga on 07 Sep 2002 11:47 PDT
eddiejanzer-ga,

You are entitled to request a refund if you are not satisfied with an
answer, or if the answer did not address your problem. It seems that
you have found a solution by yourself, so it's up to you. It would
suck to have to pay for something that didn't help you, so go ahead
and request the refund. Thank you for using Google Answers.


Regards,

kyrie26-ga
Reason this answer was rejected by eddiejanzer-ga:
the anser did not resove my prblem.  I had already tried these
avenues.  I need entire folders of music converted in batch form,  and
these prgrams only convert files and this would be to prolonged a
process.  I want to batch process a folder of music that may have 5 to
50 albums inside of it,  files being the songs inside the albums

Comments  
Subject: Re: batch coverting audio mac under 100.00
From: lot-ga on 06 Sep 2002 13:18 PDT
 
Is iTunes 3 no good? - totally free download.
Apple.com
http://www.apple.com/itunes/

rips MP3's
http://www.apple.com/itunes/encode.html
"Encode as many MP3s as you like"
(not sure if it does batch)

regards
lot-ga
Subject: Re: batch coverting audio mac under 100.00
From: eddiejanzer-ga on 07 Sep 2002 11:37 PDT
 
kyrie,  I saw the other comment by you,  it was right on.  I do like
this system... google,  and I tried mp3 drop and got errors on it... 
At this moment mpegger is working in the backgrougnd as I email you
this (file 16 of 98) and I am encoding at HQ variable bit rate.
 It's a lovely program.

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