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Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: dwightuu-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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07 Sep 2002 21:27 PDT
Expires: 07 Oct 2002 21:27 PDT Question ID: 62731 |
What is published original source of the quotation attributed to William the Silent of Orange, "It is not necessary to hope in order to undertake or to succeed in order to persevere." |
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Re: quotation
From: justaskscott-ga on 07 Sep 2002 22:49 PDT |
Researchers should take note of this statement by Martin Malia: "Les citations françaises (Paris, 1952) and the Encyclopédie des citations (Paris, 1959) both state that, though this aphorism is generally attributed to [William the Silent], it is to be found neither in his printed works nor in biographies by contemporaries." Reply by Martin Malia to letter on "Poland's Past", April 12, 1984 The New York Review of Books http://www.nybooks.com/articles/5880 |
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Re: quotation
From: mhofstede-ga on 11 Sep 2002 13:13 PDT |
Have a look at: http://perso.respublica.fr/chevaliersdunet/calligra.htm It seems to me that this is not in a publication but as a motto in a letter. I'll look it up in a (printed) Dutch history of William the Silent tomorrow. |
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Re: quotation
From: johnny_phoenix-ga on 04 Oct 2002 05:13 PDT |
As you will see from this and many other sites http://www.cyberquotations.com/sorted/qUnderstanding.htm William of Orange adopted the quote as his own 200 years after it was first said by Charles the Bold. I couldn't find the source of the quote so i haven't submitted it as an answer. Since Charles the Bold was french, typing the quotation in french just reveals more people quoting it plageuristically without bothering to acknowldege Charles the Bold. |
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